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re: Parents of the OT...and ONLY parents of the OT....dealing with a kid and discouragement

Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:48 pm to
How does he act when he has successes? Could he be frustrated with the activity itself and channeling that frustration into a reaction when he loses?

I wonder if getting him involved in a non-competitive activity with a more linear success rate like learning an instrument could teach him the value of hard work and build his confidence. Just an idea!
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:48 pm to
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My oldest kid was the superstar. The youngest is a snowflake. You gotta be careful that you don't lose snowflake kids because the become weird outcasts with green hair and silver nasal jewelry if they aren't loved.




Funny you should say that because I expect my middle to become the green haired tattooed pierced one because she is most def her mothers daughter.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:49 pm to
Failing/losing is important in developing humility that leads one to working harder.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:49 pm to
Not all kids are cut out for sports and competition. Sign him up for theater classes
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:50 pm to
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Or he could just start winning.



How would he know what winning feels like if he's never won.....

Kinda like you Mingo..
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:50 pm to
Did you even cut up his shirts for him and make him a li’l Hulkamaniac?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:50 pm to
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For wrestling, did he know what he was getting into (amateur vs pro wrestling)?


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Ric Flair


WOOO!!!
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:51 pm to
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How does he act when he has successes? Could he be frustrated with the activity itself and channeling that frustration into a reaction when he loses?


He’s elated when he wins. Like he EXPECTS to win every time and when he doesn’t, he doesn’t emotionally understand how to handle it.

He enjoys the activity. I’ve asked him numerous times how he likes it. If it’s something he wants to continue. He says yes. I believe if he hated it, he’d tell me. He’s told me he hated soccer so he doesn’t play that any more. I’m not forcing him to play anything.
Posted by Ric Flair
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:54 pm to
I probably watched my first Rocky movie around that age. Good lesson for getting beat, training hard, and finally winning. Or maybe the karate kid movie? Something to keep him training and motivated if he genuinely likes the sport.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:54 pm to
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Like he EXPECTS to win every time and when he doesn’t, he doesn’t emotionally understand how to handle it.


cause hes a brat

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He’s told me he hated soccer so he doesn’t play that any more. I’m not forcing him to play anything.


Soccer for a young kid is ok...it's great for strength and conditioning as well as footwork and strategy.


I think you should get him in to boxing...let him get his arse kicked a couple times
Posted by BeerMoney
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:56 pm to
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He’s elated when he wins. Like he EXPECTS to win every time and when he doesn’t, he doesn’t emotionally understand how to handle it.


Teach him that “get’em next time” and “how can i get a little better” mentality. Nothing wrong with getting bent up about losing just need to work him past it. Head up, good sportsmanship, etc.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:56 pm to
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let him get his arse kicked a couple times


Oh don’t worry. That’s what’s happening to him now in practices. That’s why he’s having such a difficult time
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:57 pm to
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Like he EXPECTS to win every time and when he doesn’t, he doesn’t emotionally understand how to handle it.


Why would walk out there expecting to lose? You can't have him out there throwing fits when he does lose, but that's a lot better problem to have than an unmotivated pussy that would rather be playing mine craft.

Work with him to use his defeats as ways to get better. The "make sure its fun" works for kids that are less motivated, but for kids like this help him realize what his mistakes are and how he can get better.
Posted by tigergirl10
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:57 pm to
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am a teacher so I’ll give my 2 cents anyway.
God bless you, and thank you for your hard work and dedication to your students!
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:57 pm to
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Oh don’t worry. That’s what’s happening to him now in practices. That’s why he’s having such a difficult time



He'll be fine...
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:57 pm to
Parents do an enormous disservice to their kids all the time.

Mostly by praising them. “Aww honey, you got an A because you are so smart.” Or “of course you hit a home run. You are such a good athlete.” And on and on.

Kids become to believe they are gifted and owed easy success. It sets them up for failure.

Instead try the approach of, “Of course you got a A because your study so much harder than other people!” Or “of course your hit the ball well because you practice and work at it longer than most people.”

Also, when they do something and it’s a minor hurt doing whatever, respond with’ “it’s a good thing you’re tough! That would have had other kids whining in the emergency room but not you!”

Set the expectations of working hard for good results, not a gift they are lucky to have and a sense of being resilient.

It pays off forever.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:58 pm to
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I think you should get him in to boxing...let him get his arse kicked a couple times


I agree

There’s a guy who works with my husband who’s an amateur boxer - so I told him he could practice with my boys - hell, the girls, too - equal opportunity and all
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:01 pm to
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dealing with a kid and discouragement


Kids tend to focus more on their shortcomings than on their achievements. It’s a confidence thing. I’ve coached kids and have seen many - even the best athletes at a young age - that go into a downward spiral if they make a mistake and start to play too tight, leading to more mistakes. It’s like their whole world is coming unraveled.

It is important to teach them that everyone, and I mean everyone, fails and has disappointments from time to time. What separates successful athletes (and people) from the rest is how they handle their mistakes, fight through them, and learn from them.

I tell my kids, if you make a bad play, flush it and try to make up for it on the next one. If you make a good play, build on it during the next play. You may not play a perfect game, but you’re much more likely to play a great game if you play with perfect effort.

Pick a success story from his favorite sport or athlete and use it as an illustration. My kid loves basketball. When he used to get down on himself for missing a big shot, I’d remind him that the best shooters in the NBA miss 6 out of 10 threes. Nobody ever remembers the missed shot that could have won the game. But they sure remember the made ones. But there’s a lot more misses than makes even at the highest levels of competition. Maybe your kid loves football, give him examples of a QB throwing a huge pick but then rallying back to overcome it. Or a safety getting burned only to make a TD saving play or turnover later in the game.

Kids just don’t think like that and need to be taught to.

At the end of the day, nobody should know your kid better than you do. You just have to find a way to explain that it won’t be easy, and it shouldn’t be easy. Competition is supposed to challenge us and bring out the best in us. That’s why we do it. That’s the whole point of it.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:01 pm to
yep you have to let them know there is always someone else looking to take your spot, or beat you out. Nothing comes for free. You have to work harder than the other guy/gal and always stay one step ahead because they will eventually figure you out and catch up and try to beat you or jump over you.
Posted by When in Rome
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:02 pm to
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let him get his arse kicked a couple times
A lot of the podcasters I listen to rave about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for this reason. It builds character and humbles its students.
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