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re: Parents Branded "Cruel" For Not Aborting Disfigured Daughter

Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:00 pm to
are we making satirical funny posts or we being serious in this thread?


funny post:
"well there goes the neighborhood"

serious post:
"its nobody's god damn business if that family wants to make or keep their own damn baby".

Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

there's no breathing or functioning in the womb?


Respiratory movements start around 9 weeks. There's no actual breathing until after birth. As far as functioning, it depends on your definition of functioning. What would your cut off be? One could go so far as to say a zygote is functioning, and the sperm and ovum are also functioning individually before conception.

It's all very subjective.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84349 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Not to be crude, but it's not like they're that fricked up looking.

I was expecting much worse.



Me too
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:04 pm to
I know a girl who has that disease and she had a child about a year ago, who also has the same disease. While I don't think the child should have been aborted, I do wonder why she didn't adopt. This woman is deaf and has had surgeries her entire life because of her disease. Why would you want to pass that on to your kid?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175935 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

This woman is deaf and has had surgeries her entire life because of her disease. Why would you want to pass that on to your kid?


go ask her and report back to us.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

What would your cut off be?


conception
Posted by jmcs68
Member since Sep 2012
40401 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:18 pm to
I think people should mind their own damn business. She's adorable.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

after neighbours branded him 'cruel'.
Shitty neighbors? frick 'em and...kudos to mom and dad on having a beautiful baby girl.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

conception

That's not a definition or level of functioning
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53610 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

So it's after it has become a breathing, functioning human? Thats murder.


when did she find out her daughter had the condition?
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11942 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:36 pm to
Thats a pretty minor disfigurement. To call it cruel is a bit much.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:37 pm to
Amniocentesis is done at like 14 weeks so I don't think it would have been any earlier than that at earliest.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:38 pm to
You can't tax a fetus
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3146 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:39 pm to
I find it difficult to believe that anyone would brand a couple as cruel for keeping a child. Certainly no one worth listening to would do that. I find it easier to believe that someone would make up the "neighbours" who supposedly "branded [the father] cruel" to make their story sound more compelling than that any neighbor would do that.

So, until someone gets quoted or identified as the "neighbour," I say that part of the story is BS.
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77493 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:56 pm to
People should be free to do whatever the frick they want and idiots need to stay out of it.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73089 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Guy looks like 65% of the posters on here.

Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10522 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

 Am I horrible person for immediately thinking the daughter looks like Elena Kagan? 




Its funny because its true.
Posted by HeadChange
Abort gay babies
Member since May 2009
43911 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:38 pm to
I have no problem with them knowing about this beforehand and keeping the baby, but I also wouldn't have had a problem if they wanted to abort it

quote:

Depending on the birth defect I could agree that aborting is less cruel. I'm not in favor of abortion on demand but in cases of severe birth defects,rape, and if the mother's life is in danger I take exception

My thoughts exactly. Abortion is a tricky subject for me that isn't as black and white as others treat it. My opinion depends on the circumstance.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 2:40 pm
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
8870 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

I support ugly people not breeding.


I see no issue with ugly people breeding. I do however have an issue with DUMB people breeding, which seem to be the same people as those criticizing this family for keeping this child. How on earth would a neighboring child with a disfigurement effect your enjoyment of your own property? I can't see how that would make your property value go down. Nor could I see how it would keep you from going outside.

I worked with a guy who had this type of disease, and although it was tough at times to understand what he was saying, he always was upbeat about life in general.

Props to the parents and hopefully their daughter will have their positive outlook on life.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 3:00 pm to
See...this is where atheism starts to shine bright and show that they truly have no moral compass without God.
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