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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:06 am to
Posted by TigrrrDad
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:06 am to
Has any politician ever addressed the prospects of a quick Katrina-like evacuation if we all drove EVs?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:07 am to
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Has any politician ever addressed the prospects of a quick Katrina-like evacuation if we all drove EVs?


What would the concern be?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:07 am to
Leftist Idealist Dreamers think they know what is best for you. They don’t care what you think either. They don’t think you’re smart enough to know what’s best for you. They think they do, and they will do whatever it takes to make the world fit the picture they have in their little heads, and you will learn to like it.

In short, they don’t serve your interests. They serve their own, and the special interests of those they align themselves with, and to enrich themselves in the process.







This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 10:10 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:09 am to
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What would the concern be?



Charging stations along the evac route having long wait times

Not the same as pumping and going in 5 minutes
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 10:10 am
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:10 am to
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Has any politician ever addressed the prospects of a quick Katrina-like evacuation if we all drove EVs?

Charge at your house before you leave, which allows you to avoid the crazies at the gas stations then leave. If you’re concerned about running out of charge on the road that’s a much bigger issues for ICE because of the difference in idle fuel consumption.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:11 am to
I would think almost any reasonable EV has enough range to get you out of the storms path.

100 miles east or west is usually more than sufficient
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 10:13 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:14 am to
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If you’re concerned about running out of charge on the road that’s a much bigger issues for ICE because of the difference in idle fuel consumption.




I can throw a gas can into the truck bed if that is a concern


What happens to lone wait lines at the charging stations along the route? There aren't enough of them to handle mass evacs. Charging at home doesn't mean you will not run out of battery before reaching your destination.

Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:15 am to
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What happens to lone wait lines at the charging stations along the route? There aren't enough of them to handle mass evacs. Charging at home doesn't mean you will not run out of battery before reaching your destination.

You don’t need to go 300 miles to get out of the storm path. You’re trying to create a fear that isn’t realistic.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:16 am to
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100 miles east or west is usually more than sufficient



Remember Houston evac a few years back? 8 hours to move 15 miles for a lot of people. Even an EV running the A/C wouldn't handle that and still have decent range after. There aren't enough charging stations yet on evac routes.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:16 am to
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Charging at home doesn't mean you will not run out of battery before reaching your destination.



There are stations along the way. Sure there may be wait times just like gas stations have wait times.

I think you are vastly underestimating range of EVs and how much they degrade in traffic.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:21 am to
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Remember Houston evac a few years back? 8 hours to move 15 miles for a lot of people. Even an EV running the A/C wouldn't handle that and still have decent range after. There aren't enough charging stations yet on evac routes.


I can give anecdotal evidence from Ida. The neighbor two doors down only owns EVs. He left for Lake Charles when the storm hit and said he didn't have any issue. On the way back he stopped in Gonzales to charge before coming into NOLA without power.

I do get the concern, but I think it is overblown like the fear of running out of charge.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:21 am to
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You don’t need to go 300 miles to get out of the storm path. You’re trying to create a fear that isn’t realistic.



You might have to go 300 miles to get a hotel. I had to go all the way to NOLA to get a hotel during Laura. That is 240 miles. Not a single hotel closer than that with room and LC is only a few hundred thousand people with surrounding areas. Imagine a larger city evacuating.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:21 am to
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Sure there may be wait times just like gas stations have wait times.

I remember waiting 2 hours to get diesel.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:23 am to
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Sure there may be wait times just like gas stations have wait times.


Gas station is a 5 minute fill up per car

What is the charging time per car?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:25 am to
Depends on the charger. In 10 minutes you can get 50-60 miles pretty easily.

You don't have to fully charge and the middle of the battery charges faster than the ends, if that makes sense. Charging isn't linear.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 10:26 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:28 am to
There are only a handful of charging stations in LC and I see them get backed up pretty often. Can't imagine what would happen if people from Houston were evacuating and had to make it to Laffy or beyond because there aren't any hotels closer.

I think the amount of stations along evac routes for a major city like Houston is still insufficient.

I imagine it will get better but as of today, I would say there aren't enough.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18082 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:32 am to
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There are only a handful of charging stations in LC and I see them get backed up pretty often. Can't imagine what would happen if people from Houston were evacuating and had to make it to Laffy or beyond because there aren't any hotels closer.

I wouldn’t particularly worry about it. If you need to stop and hit a quick charge it’s not that hard. Also, I’m most likely leaving my wife’s car at home to keep my fridge running in case the power goes out and we’re taking my GX to west Texas.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:32 am to


EVs are the stock in trade of the climate crisis hoaxers.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78444 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:33 am to
Logistics of just getting all those people out period seems impossible. ICE or EV.

I really think past experiences are why we didn't see NOLA evacuated for Ida. The scary truth is moving 2-4MM people is a non-starter and no one in government will ever admit that.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:39 am to
Meanwhile….Brandon’s massive fleet of Secret Service vehicles all use gasoline

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