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re: Over 1,800 people died in Katrina

Posted on 8/9/15 at 8:08 am to
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8938 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 8:08 am to
My 92 year-old grandmother was one of these "what kind of people." She was a nursing home resident at a nursing home that chose not to evacuate. Unfortunately, there was no mandatory evacuation order, and no one in my family could get to her before all hell broke loose, including her son being called in to work because another parish employed him, and him being on the phone with the nursing home and that parish's office of risk management, pleading for them to forcibly evacuate the home.

I know it's a difficult concept to comprehend, but I wish some of you would actually think about what you post before hitting submit.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8349 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 8:27 am to
quote:

atomic bombings killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 39,000–80,000 




Ground war would of killed millions so bombing was the better alternative.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Well, they didn't have to invade China and then bomb Pearl Harbor.


The civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not do either. The children in particular merely had the bad luck to be born there.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
11169 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:08 am to
quote:

50% of the people who died in NOLA were elderly and that doesn't include handicapped or younger persons who for whatever reason were physically not able to travel.


OK? WTF are ya'll after? It was a NATURAL DISASTER , 10 years ago (or will be 14 days from now, when this thread should have been made) more important issues for people to "stop and think about"

ETA:: 20 days for ann. of when it hit, 14 from when it formed
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 9:10 am
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7913 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:13 am to
RIP Fast Eddie Gabriel (Pat O'briens Thimble Guy)
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:16 am to
New Orleans had several days of warning and the Democratic mayor and governor sat on their arse and did nothing to evacuate or safeguard the population.

Well, Ray 'Chocolate City' Nagin did get his own arse to safety.

Think about that for a second.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16224 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:18 am to
Don't for get the hundreds killed by the navy seals.
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:19 am to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39275 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:21 am to
quote:

think about that for a second



When I do think about it I realize how low that number probably is.
Posted by russpot
alexandria
Member since Jul 2007
425 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:24 am to
SO WHAT....
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34845 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:53 am to
quote:

New Orleans had several days of warning


Define several...

NOAA didn't think the storm was headed to New Orleans until Saturday morning, their original landfall was the panhandle of Florida, it hit early Monday morning... A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

Do a little research before spouting stupid statements...
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 9:55 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:55 am to
quote:

New Orleans had several days of warning and the Democratic mayor and governor sat on their arse and did nothing to evacuate or safeguard the population.

Well, Ray 'Chocolate City' Nagin did get his own arse to safety.

Think about that for a second.



You have zero idea what you're talking about. The Friday night it was heading to Florida

Nagin issued the first mandatory evacuation too.
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 9:56 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79892 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:58 am to
quote:

NOAA didn't think the storm was headed to New Orleans until Saturday morning,


Not true at all. I was down on the prior Thursday doing hurricane prep because the chance was there. People were leaving town on Friday.

I actually told some tourist to stick around because it will be fun to ride the storm out. They were going to move their flight up from Tuesday to Satuday.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34845 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:01 am to
BS...

I worked that weekend before, got off Friday evening watched the News that night and the projected path was Panama City..


This was NOAA's storm warnings with dates...

August 26

03:00 UTC Tropical Storm Watch Discontinued Vero Beach to Titusville, Florida
Tropical Storm Warning Discontinued Jupiter Inlet to Vero Beach, Florida
05:00 UTC Hurricane Warning Tropical Storm Warning Deerfield Beach to Florida City, Florida
Hurricane Warning Discontinued Deerfield Beach to Jupiter, Florida, and Lake Okeechobee
Tropical Storm Warning Modified to Florida Keys including Florida Bay and Florida City to Longboat Key, Florida
15:00 UTC Tropical Storm Warning Modified to Florida City to Longboat Key and all the Florida Keys and Florida Bay
21:00 UTC Tropical Storm Watch Discontinued All
Tropical Storm Warning Discontinued Florida City to Longboat Key, Florida

August 27

09:00 UTC Tropical Storm Warning Modified to Dry Tortugas to Longboat Key, Florida
15:00 UTC Tropical Storm Warning Modified Dry Tortugas to Key West, Florida
Hurricane Watch Issued Morgan City to Pearl River, Louisiana
21:00 UTC Tropical Storm Warning Discontinued All
Hurricane Watch Modified to Intracoastal City, Louisiana, to Florida-Alabama border


August 28

03:00 UTC Hurricane Warning Issued Morgan City, Louisiana, to Florida-Alabama border, including Lake Pontchartrain
Tropical Storm Warning Issued Florida-Alabama border to Destin, Florida
Tropical Storm Warning Issued Intracoastal City to Morgan City, Louisiana
Hurricane Watch Modified to Florida-Alabama border to Destin, Florida
09:00 UTC Tropical Storm Warning Issued Destin to Indian Pass, Florida, and Intracoastal City to Cameron, Louisiana
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 10:05 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Not true at all. I was down on the prior Thursday doing hurricane prep because the chance was there. People were leaving town on Friday.


The Saints played in new Orleans either that Thursday or Friday

It didn't even enter the gulf until Friday, August 26th
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:07 am to
Wednesday August 24
First alerts of a tropical storm stirring in Carribean
Friday August 26
Most residents work a full day and take "wait and see" approach
5 p.m. warnings from National Weather Service show Hurricane Katrina take a turn, set New Orleans within range
Saturday August 27
Saturday morning most residents learn that Katrina's path is set for New Orleans
Metro-area evacuations begin en masse clogging all outbound ateries of the city for 48 hours
St. Tammany, St. Charles, Plaquemines Parishes announce mandatory evacuations
Orleans and Jefferson Parish both announce voluntary evacuations
Governor Blanco sends "State of Emergency" letter to President Bush
LSU scientists issue a projected storm surge map
Sunday August 28
At 9:30 a.m. Orleans Parish issues first-ever mandatory evacuation
At 10 a.m. Katrina becomes a Category 5 storm with winds of 175 m.p.h.
At 11:30 a.m., President Bush vows to help those affected by the storm
State puts contrflow plan into effect on interstates
Superdome houses 26,000 residents as city's "refuge of last resort"
Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center, telephones the Times-Picayune to warn of a "worst-case scenario"
Tropical storm-force winds close down emergency services in metro area
At 9 p.m., Times-Picayune building loses power, generators power up
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:08 am to
Yea, that makes sense. Friday night was when we found out

Think we found out leaving the game actually
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 10:09 am
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:08 am to
Before Katrina, the estimated death toll for a Cat 5 getting New Orleans with it's sweet spot was 25,000 to 100,000. That was numbers from a Red Cross study.

It was terrible, but if anything, New Orleans was lucky.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:09 am to
Monday August 29
At 3 a.m., Katrina makes landfall as a Category 3 hurricane at the Southwest Pass at the mouth of the Mississippi River
Metro-area emergency officals hold status meeting
At 6 a.m., 317,000 households are without power
At 7 a.m., water reported coming over the levee in the 9th Ward
At 8:45 a.m., six to eight-foot flood waters reported in Lower 9th Ward
At 9 a.m., winds rip hole in roof of Superdome
At 9 a.m., eye of the storm passes to the east of New Orleans central business district. Windows in high-rise buildings blow out
11 a.m., NWS reports a breach in the Industrial Canal levee, emptying Lake Pontchartrain into the neighborhoods of Eastern New Orleans, the Lower Ninth Ward in Orleans Parish and all of St. Bernard Parish
2 p.m., breach in the 17th Street Canal is confirmed. Flooding of Lakeview, Mid-City, Broodmoor, Gentilly result over the next 48 hours.
2 p.m., flood waters in the Lower Ninth Ward reach 12 feet in some areas
Flood waters continue to rise and it becomes apparent that it is a worst-case scenerio
Tuesday August 30
9 a.m., Times-Picayune employees evacuate newspaper building in delivery trucks as water rises a foot an hour
Local media reports that Martial Law is declared in Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines Parish
Looting reports go national presenting New Orleans as a lawless and violent haven for those still trapped in the city
Flood waters continue to rise throughout city
Wednesday August 31
Flood waters reach an equlibrium as the "bowl" of the city is now even with Lake Ponchartrain
Some neighborhoods under as much as 20 feet of water
Hellish scenes reported from those stranded in the Superdome: assaults, rape and suicide reported though later most dismissed
Estimates of 30 days before city can be pumped out
Thousands stranded in houses, on roofs
Approximatley one million people with power in metro area
Media reports that thousands are stranded in the New Orleans Convention Center without food or water as a steady stream of people, many from the flooded Central City neighborhood, trickled first toward Lee Circle and then to the Convention Center, hoping to be saved from increasingly desperate straits
Thursday September 1
Corps of Engineers begins to build dam to stop levee breach at the 17th Street Canal
More than 10,000 people have been rescued in St. Bernard Parish
Times-Picayune asks, Where is the calvary? as still no federal help has arrived
Governor Blanco demands "no less than 40,000 troops"
Mayor Nagin lambasts federal officals in a tirade for their lack of effective response
First 5,000 of approximatley 23,000 evacues arrive at Houston Astrodome by bus
Bush seeks $10.5 billion storm-relief package
Friday September 2
7,000 soldiers moved in on the Convention Center of 15,000 angry refugees and a boulevard littered with putrefying corpses
Fires break out in various warehouses across the city
Bush tours area, says what is wrong "we're going to make right"
Mayor Nagin predicts electricity to be out in city for three months
Airport becomes way station for refugees
Thousands of refugees still in Superdome, Convention Center and I-10
Saturday September 3
FEMA says storm overwhelmed agency; outrage grows in Washington
Authorities beging to regain grip on city with military's aid
President Bush ordered 7,200 additional active duty troops to the region, for a total of 30,000
Rape, gunfire reported at Convention Center
Law enforcement agencies fielded about 1,000 distress 911 calls Saturday
St. Bernard rescuers find 31 dead in nursing home
Death toll expected to be in thousands, though nothing offical yet
Last of evacuees taken from Superdome and Convention Center
Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard breaks down on "Meet the Press" and tells how a colleague's elderly mother died in her home Friday after waiting four days for rescuers that never arrived
Rescuers continue to pluck residents from hellish waters
Sunday September 4
Estimated 2,000 people, many of them with serious medical problems, were still housed inside Louis Armstrong International Airport
Monday September 5
16,000 National Guard troops dedicated to search and rescue mission
Jefferson Parish residents allowed in for look and see
Agencies begin trying to save stranded pets
Corps of Engineers shifts work to dammning London Avenue Canal
Mayor Nagin says more than 10,000 could be dead
Makeshift morgue set up in St. Gabriel, La. to handle 140 bodies per day
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34845 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Thursday or Friday


Friday, along with many High School games.... So the New Orleans area didn't know where the storm was headed till Saturday morning...
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 10:10 am
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