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re: Outlook for lawyers growing more grim
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:54 am to UpToPar
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:54 am to UpToPar
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Not in louisiana recently.
The avg bar pass rate in the US is about 75%. Tulane's avg bar pass rate is 78%. Those pass rates seem very high in comparison to other professional license exams.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 10:46 am
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:54 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
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Another contributing factor is that the Bar is too easy to pass.
Go tell this to someone studying for the July LA Bar right now. He might literally shoot you in the dick with buckshot.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:55 am to Teddy Ruxpin
From what I have seen, it is definitely on an uptick. Whether the uptick is sustainable, idk because many firms put a hiring freeze following the economic downturn in 2009. It's only in the last few years that they have started to hire at the same rate they were before.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:55 am to UpToPar
quote:Law student with engineering degree can coast for the rest of their life as a patent lawyer
Law student with a business background
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:55 am to Scruffy
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Scruffy's dad is a lawyer and he told him to never go to law school for this specific reason.
Mung's dad told him not to go b/c the world didn't need another lazy lawyer. Shoulda listened.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:55 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
quote:To pass the CPA exam the first time is around 20%
Louisiana's avg bar pass rate is 75%. Tulane's avg bar pass rate is 78%. Those pass rates seem very high in comparison to other professional license exams.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:55 am to UpToPar
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Law student with a business background getting their MBA will.
Exactly. A law degree can never hurt you. Law school can hurt you due to the time and money commitment. However, if you have money to burn or you can get a free ride, and the time to commit to it, why not?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:56 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
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Louisiana's avg bar pass rate is 75%. Tulane's avg bar pass rate is 78%. Those pass rates seem very high in comparison to other professional license exams
The bar passage rate in La for the last two bar exams was 53% and 49% respectively.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:56 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
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Louisiana's avg bar pass rate is 75%
47% last year. Bar is cinching down on admittance.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:56 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Having a law degree even if you don't practice law opens up a lot of doors.
This is true. Maybe I am biased, because this is what I have, but I think a CPA is about the most valuable somewhat "easily obtainable"(easy in it doesnt take a bunch of extra schooling, the test sucked) designation someone can get for opening multiple doors. You have the guaranteed public accounting route if you want it, or you can really use it for anything in business. I was pleasantly surprised how many companies love to see a younger person with their CPA
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:57 am to Mung
quote:He meant LSU
47% last year. Bar is cinching down on admittance.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:58 am to lsupride87
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To pass the CPA exam the first time is around 20%
Yup. I just passed FAR and am taking AUD in August.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:58 am to Cold Cous Cous
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Go tell this to someone studying for the July LA Bar right now. He might literally shoot you in the dick with buckshot.
I wasn't fast enough to slam that number. The bar is certainly protecting it's own now with lowering that passage rate
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:58 am to TejasHorn
The legal profession is a den of thieves and scoundrels.
I took the bar 24 years ago this month. If I could go back in time and do something else, I would. But this is where I am, and this is where I will stay until something better comes along, or I retire.
But I'll talk any young person out of it if given the opportunity.
I took the bar 24 years ago this month. If I could go back in time and do something else, I would. But this is where I am, and this is where I will stay until something better comes along, or I retire.
But I'll talk any young person out of it if given the opportunity.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:59 am to Lake Vegas Tiger
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It's obvious that you have down syndrome
It's a reference to Back to the Future II you asshat!
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:00 am to Teddy Ruxpin
From what I have heard the law students are freaking the hell out in the new post-conditioning era. It will be interesting to see what this does to enrollment numbers in the fall.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:00 am to Henry Jones Jr
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I'd still go to law school. Having a law degree even if you don't practice law opens up a lot of doors.
No it doesn't. Virtually every employer who is looking for a job which does not require a JD thinks applicants with a JD fit into one of three categories which are bad for your chances: 1) you couldn't hack it as a lawyer (wouldn't or won't work hard and thus wouldn't be a good fit); 2) you are using their job as a transition job to get back to/wait for a law job; 3) you are overqualified and would be bored doing their nonlaw job.
The height of irony is outside the legal field, a JD can often handicap your chances of getting a job.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 10:02 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:02 am to Cold Cous Cous
The numbers are still trending down. The class about to graduate from LSU had about 40-50 more students than the one below it
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:02 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
quote:If you downed FAR then you can down them all
Yup. I just passed FAR and am taking AUD in August.
What I tell anyone who asks me for advice for the CPA exam is you dont ever "fail" it until you stop tryingPosted on 7/15/14 at 10:03 am to Cold Cous Cous
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. It will be interesting to see what this does to enrollment numbers in the fall.
From what I understand it's starting to affect the schools. Starting to beef up marketing because they can't just sit back and wait for their classes to fill up.
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