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re: OT Teachers...why is it a damn standard that you send home so much damn homework

Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Anyone that thinks this kid really gets assigned 4 hours of homework a night is living in fantasyland.



the kid isnt assigned 4 hours of homework....thats absurd.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14886 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:44 pm to
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They don't need 12 hours a day of work to make these grades. You should see the assignments. Tons of busy work.



I have always gotten the same. It sucks, but its repetition to engrave it into your head. You son being smart has a lot to do with it, but you also have to accredit the system with your son doing so well.

My former high school just got ranked 42 best high school in the nation and was around that rank when I was there, and I had busy work even in high school.

Columbus High Liberal Arts



The busy work isn't going to stop. Maybe it builds work ethic? I am not sure. However, like I recommended to the OP, go talk with your kid's teachers with an open mind. If anything, if it does fall on the shoulders of the teacher, maybe talking to them will help them realize they are giving to much homework.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10067 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Hammond Tiger Fan


Based on your spelling, and now your math, I hope you don't try and help them
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66563 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Anyone that thinks this kid really gets assigned 4 hours of homework a night is living in fantasyland.



While that is likely, I wouldn't be surprised.

From what the OP posted on page two with the HW load it looks to me like something that should take 1.5-2 hours to complete. I would think each subjects material would likely require 15-20 minute per subject. That could certainly go higher depending on how many math problems are involved and what type of work it is.

He also mentioned studying for tests. That would obviously add some time and could get you to around 3 hours. Is test prep an every week thing or just something that happens every once in a while?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61878 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:46 pm to
My 3rd graders have never made below a 98 on a test. They scored in the 99th percentile when tested for gifted. This year they are taking 2.5-3 hours a day to complete their homework. 2 subjects before ballet/cheer, then the rest afterward. It really has gotten out of hand. One does it without any fuss. The other starts to shut down around the 2 hour mark.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29716 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:47 pm to
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I think y'all have completely missed the point I'm making in my original post. She has homework in every subject every night.

i agree that is ridiculous if true but.....

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I might take her 20-30 minutes per assignment, but when you add up every subject she's doing homework in each night she's doing 3-4 hours of homework Monday - Thursday.


if she is truly taking 30 minutes per assignment, then she's not getting something. You should talk to the teacher and find out if other kids are taking that long too. I just don't believe that schools outside of Japan expect kids to spend 4 hours a day doing homework.
If a kid knows how to do his or her homework without problems, then they generally don't need to do much studying to make good grades.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:47 pm to
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It appears to Scruffy that it is designed to make cubicle workers out if children.

Our education system is EXTREMELY poorly designed. It needs to be reworked from top to bottom.

Some google sleuth should try to find the article (on Huffington Post IIRC) laying out how our school system was expressly designed by Protestants for indoctrination.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82682 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:47 pm to
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This whole approach to education is wrong. We are in a society where we think that if you aren't doing 12 hours of schoolwork a day, then you aren't getting an education. It is fundamentally false.



FWIW, I agree with this. For the teachers that are over-assigning, I think it's ridiculous. Hell, I feel the same way about the US workforce too.

I just know that we are quick to jump on the teacher too. If your kids have straight A's and are in the top of the class, why haven't you met with the teachers and explained this? (If you have, apologies, but you haven't mentioned it here)
I feel like if I was a teacher, it would be the straight A kids' parents that I want to come to me.
Posted by crazytiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
4395 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:48 pm to
Obliviously you should schedule a meeting with the teacher then but I can't imagine the teacher giving homework in every subject. My daughter is in 4th grade and I don't think she has ever spent an hour on homework. I'm assuming you are in either tangi or st Tammany school might I ask which school?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10067 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:49 pm to
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JJ27


What school district..? We already know that the OPs Parish rates a C and gives all kids 4 hours of homework...I am interested to see if there is a trend
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14886 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:50 pm to
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I think some of y'all have completely missed the point I'm making in my original post. She has homework in every subject every night. I might take her 20-30 minutes per assignment, but when you add up every subject she's doing homework in each night she's doing 3-4 hours of homework Monday - Thursday. All that time includes doing written assignments as well as studying for tests. It's ridiculous no matter how some of y'all try to spin it.




No, we aren't. We are questioning if your child does get the chance to do homework in class, if she is taking advantage of it. I am not sure what people expect now?

The education standards are much greater than they use to be even 10 years ago. My father played football at Arkansas State in the 80s and was an All-Academic in his conference.
What he learned in his senior level classes are things I had to learn in my freshman, and some even in my senior year of high school classes.

Kids have to learn things earlier because there is so much more stuff they have to learn later on.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:51 pm to
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4 test to study for


5 days in a week...so this week she has more test than she normally does. Lets say she studies 1 hour each night for each test....this doesnt happen every week.

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math homework every night


20 min a night

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social studies homework every night,


20 min a night

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reading every night,


20 min a night, she can actually do in bed before she falls asleep

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english assignment every night


20 min

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science assignment two nights this week.


again, not every week.....so she has a little more this week than she normally has

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And on top of all that shite she has to prepare a powerpoint presentation and give a 5 minute lecture on the material.


which I'm sure she has been knowing about for several weeks.....



Still doesnt add up to 4 hours of home work EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK


Yes, some weeks are going to be tougher than others, and some nights she's going to have more homework than others...tough shite. She needs to get used to it.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66563 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:52 pm to
Also...how many teachers does your kid have (the OP's)?

I would guess they have two? That's how it is in Texans from what I see after 2nd grade. K-2 they have one, 3-5 they have two or three. Then in middle school they have 7 or 8.

If you have a bunch of teachers I wouldn't be surprised if they don't sync up with one another when it comes to homework load.

The OP really just needs to meet with the teacher and attempt to speak with some other parents to see where they are at with their kids.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16408 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:52 pm to
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What school district..? We already know that the OPs Parish rates a C and gives all kids 4 hours of homework...I am interested to see if there is a trend


Nice try, but I don't live in Tangipohoa Parish.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:53 pm to
On top of all that, she could be knocking out about half of that if she would get started at aftercare.....
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10067 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Nice try, but I don't live in Tangipohoa Parish.



Then clear the air (although I am guessing you're going to tell us an A district no matter what)
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61878 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:54 pm to
Ouachita Parish. Their school is an A+ on the ratings yearly.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10067 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Ouachita Parish.


They have a B overall this year, and last

No bias here, I grew up there
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16408 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:56 pm to
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5 days in a week...so this week she has more test than she normally does. Lets say she studies 1 hour each night for each test....this doesnt happen every week


She generally has at least 3 tests every week. This week she has 4.

and the rest of her assignments depending on the complexity takes at minimum 30 minutes for each assignment. We don't help her initially with her homework. We allow her to do it herself, we check it and go over her mistakes so that adds on time as well trying to teach her the things she's not understanding. Like I said if it wasn't in every subject every night it wouldn't be as bad, but damn the load doesn't have to be that much. I look at her weekly calendar on every Monday evening and in every subject there is something listed underneath it. On my list on page 2 I probably don't have everything listed b/c I don't have the calendar in front of me. Those were just some of the things I remember reading last night.

This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29716 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Kids have to learn things earlier because there is so much more stuff they have to learn later on.


no they don't. They aren't going to start teaching calculus to freshman b/c they have to get to calc 2 and diff eq later in high school.

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