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re: OT Teachers...why is it a damn standard that you send home so much damn homework

Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21593 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:25 pm to
What?

She is in 4th grade. She's a kid. She is probably tired from getting up at 6am every day, sitting in class all day long, and then having 4 hours of homework every night. You would be tired too.

Your comment is kind of dense, honestly.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82682 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:26 pm to
Great. Maybe you're 90. It's not uncommon for teachers to give students time to work on their homework, and it's not uncommon for this to be more relaxed time and things like whispering/chatting to be permitted more easily.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10067 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:28 pm to
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She is in 4th grade. She's a kid. She is probably tired from getting up at 6am every day, sitting in class all day long


Like the millions of other kids out there that manage to get shite done

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having 4 hours of homework every night.


We've gone over why it takes certain kids this long
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29716 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Just stop it. He is saying that his 4th grader has 6 hours of homework a night. That is after being in school for 8 hours a day. If you work 14 hours a day, you are griping about it.


and we are saying it doesn't take that long for a normal kid to do homework. If it did, then there would be no kids playing outside anywhere after school.

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We should not ask 4th graders to work 14 hours a day.


no one does

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My 7th grader had straight A's with all 99's or 100's in every class. He brought home an 89 in math because he accidentally left one of his many assignments at home one day and brought it first thing the next day. The teacher gave him a ZERO even though he completed it perfectly and it affected his grade and dropped him to a B.

missing one homework assignment doesn't drop you a letter grade
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14886 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:32 pm to
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My 7th grader had straight A's with all 99's or 100's in every class. He brought home an 89 in math because he accidentally left one of his many assignments at home one day and brought it first thing the next day. The teacher gave him a ZERO even though he completed it perfectly and it affected his grade and dropped him to a B. Back in my day, she would have dropped him a letter grade for being a day late. He was disappointed but I told him I was proud of him, don't worry about it, and learn from it for next time. It is the second B that he has ever made in his life. In my opinion, the teacher is a moron. But, whatever.




I have never gotten to bring late work, especially in math. They aren't going to let your kid turn in late work in high school, and especially not in college. And when you get in college, those homework grades mean everything. It isn't a mean teacher thing, it is expected to turn work in on time, or you get a 0. Especially in a class where you have homework due almost every day.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82682 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Parents really should just request meetings with all their kids teachers and do into the meetings with open minds and not thinking that their child can't be the problem.



EXACTLY.

They had a thread like this on Reddit, actually, and a lot of teachers commented saying they told their parents during open house that if the homework for their specific class ever starts taking up more than 15-30 minutes of the kid's time (time depending on age), schedule a meeting and we'll get to the root of it.

Some schools actually have policies that say if a child flat out can't finish the homework in a night, it has to be excused.

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Again, not saying OP's kid is the problem at all. But talkings to the teachers can be very beneficial. Maybe OP's kid has someone distracting beside her or at her table preventing her from focusing? Can be multiple things.



Exactly.

I'm sure some teachers do over-assign. But shite. Talk to them. Figure out if your kid is a problem kid or if they're just struggling or what. Even if it's the kid that is struggling, I imagine most teachers would be willing to work with that. Who knows though?

This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66563 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Why so late. I used to do it all right when I got home or went to after care.



Whether the work is done at after school care or not, it doesn't matter.

A 4th grader shouldn't have 4 hours of home work. Whether they start at 3:30, 5:00, or 7:00 is irrelevant to the OP's worry.

A meeting with the teacher is certainly in order. And talk to other parents and see what their experience is.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29716 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Great. Maybe you're 90. It's not uncommon for teachers to give students time to work on their homework, and it's not uncommon for this to be more relaxed time and things like whispering/chatting to be permitted more easily.



i'm not 90, i have kids.
I'm not disagreeing that teachers give time to do homework.
Like i said before, I never did homework at home, yet my sister spent hours everyday doing homework and studying b/c she sucked at school early on. She did fine in high school and graduated college with good grades.

The classroom environment in public schools and catholic schools is drastically different is what my point was.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21593 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Like the millions of other kids out there that manage to get shite done


Yeah, you don't get it.

Why in the world are you giving several hours of homework to kids who are in school 8 hours a day? It is because professional educators have no idea what they are doing.

My kids all make A's with an occasional B. They score in the 98th percentile on standardized tests. They are also being given hours of homework each night by teachers who do not think and who just throw out assignments like candy at a parade. Each teacher thinks that they have to give homework in every class or they are not doing their jobs. It all adds up when you have 6-7 classes a day.

This whole approach to education is wrong. We are in a society where we think that if you aren't doing 12 hours of schoolwork a day, then you aren't getting an education. It is fundamentally false.

But, go on defending it by calling the kids lazy. You are proving that your own thinking is lazy and that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3606 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:34 pm to
I'm going through the same thing. My third grader has homework 5 nights a week. I can understand the weekdays, but every Friday. I know when I was that age I didn't want to be doing homework on Friday afternoon.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82682 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:36 pm to
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The classroom environment in public schools and catholic schools is drastically different is what my point was.



I just don't think it's that broad. I went to a highly ranked public school that blew the two Catholic schools I attended out of the water.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14886 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:37 pm to
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It is because professional educators have no idea what they are doing.



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My kids all make A's with an occasional B. They score in the 98th percentile on standardized tests.



I don't know, sorta sounds like they are doing their job with your son to me.


Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21593 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:37 pm to
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I'm not 90, i have kids. I'm not disagreeing that teachers give time to do homework. Like i said before, I never did homework at home, yet my sister spent hours everyday doing homework and studying b/c she sucked at school early on. She did fine in high school and graduated college with good grades.


Hey, guess what? It is different from when you and I were in school. I never studied for tests and did my homework on the way to school in the morning or right before classes started. I flew through all of it, made great grades, high ACT scores, and did great in college. My kids are smarter than I am and are doing work far beyond their years. But, the hours of repetitious homework that they have from teachers trying to meet state standards is ridiculous.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29716 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:37 pm to
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A 4th grader shouldn't have 4 hours of home work. Whether they start at 3:30, 5:00, or 7:00 is irrelevant to the OP's worry.



doesn't matter where the work is done, it doesn't take a 4th grader 4 hours everyday to do homework.
If it did, no one would get to play sports, or gymnastics or dancing or whatever b/c they'd be doing homework all afternoon, yet millions of kids are able to balance school work and extracurriculars with no problem.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21593 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:38 pm to
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I don't know, sorta sounds like they are doing their job with your son to me.


They don't need 12 hours a day of work to make these grades. You should see the assignments. Tons of busy work.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29716 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:38 pm to
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I just don't think it's that broad. I went to a highly ranked public school that blew the two Catholic schools I attended out of the water.



don't bring up comparing public schools outside of Louisiana to any school in Louisiana.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10067 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:40 pm to
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You are proving that your own thinking is lazy and that you have no idea what you are talking about.



I've already put my credentials out there, and Teddy and plenty of others agree with my stance...If you children are taking this long to do homework, the problem PROBABLY is not the teachers..
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:40 pm to
Anyone that thinks this kid really gets assigned 4 hours of homework a night is living in fantasyland.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16408 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:43 pm to
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They had a thread like this on Reddit, actually, and a lot of teachers commented saying they told their parents during open house that if the homework for their specific class ever starts taking up more than 15-30 minutes of the kid's time (time depending on age), schedule a meeting and we'll get to the root of it


I think some of y'all have completely missed the point I'm making in my original post. She has homework in every subject every night. I might take her 20-30 minutes per assignment, but when you add up every subject she's doing homework in each night she's doing 3-4 hours of homework Monday - Thursday. All that time includes doing written assignments as well as studying for tests. It's ridiculous no matter how some of y'all try to spin it.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58875 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:43 pm to
Idk, some of those wannabe elite elementary schools give A LOT of homework.
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