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re: OT Survivalists...What is your survival plan for a prolonged catastrophe?

Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:29 pm to
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I'm guessing you would want to plant large things that grow easily - winter squash, pumpkins, acorn squash (these all store well in cool weather + have tons of carbs). Okra produces a LOT of food for a long period of time. Peas/beans are easy to grow. I'd stay away from corn completely at first. Way too many pests.

If you want some of the best gardening knowledge check out 'bayou gardener' website. It's run by a Louisiana guy named Don. Best site for real world, no-hype, no-nonsense gardening. Lots of preppers post on there.


Also from that survival garden website I checked out (posted link earlier), an emphasis (somewhat) on perennials as easier once established. What about carrots and onions?
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:31 pm to
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USMCTiger03


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Also from that survival garden website I checked out (posted link earlier), an emphasis (somewhat) on perennials as easier once established. What about carrots and onions?


carrots are easy to grow if you have very good soil (loose with lots of organic material)

onions are very easy to grow. just hit them with some nitrogen-heavy fertilizer every 3 weeks and keep watered well. over here, they'll be ready to pick around July
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:32 pm to
Don't forget to get some cows. Can't live without that medium rare ribeye
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:44 pm to
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LINK

Here is one of the threads I was reading on EMPs and modern vehicles



BOOM. Great info and actually something I've been wondering/worried about.

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:49 pm to
Yea, I was happy I stumbled upon that thread. If my car was rendered useless, I'd be in trouble. My plan is to load up the guns, ammo, and supplies in the car and drive 40 minutes north to the property. I'd be stuck in Mandeville if an EMP could shut down cars
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:49 pm to
Just order take out food and chill dude.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:52 pm to
man, I'm just NOT in the mood for an apocalypse right now
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:09 am to
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There is enough game and fish to not worry any damn rats or snakes. This could really turn into a good story.



Actually, I'm a writer. Last night I started brainstorming a plot based around this scenario.

A message board format is the perfect place to bounce creative ideas off multiple people. Think about it...we just created a story from nowhere in less than 2 days.

On top of that, the thread was started by the universally loathed and frequently banished mizzoukills.

Ahhhh...the wonders of the internets.

Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:17 am to
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My plan is to load up the guns, ammo, and supplies in the car and drive 40 minutes north to the property



For people who plan to drive further to a designated "survival zone", what happens if the EMP/catastrophe occurs when your car is out of fuel? Do you plan to rob for gas, or attempt to steal gas from another car in the middle of the night? Both choices may get you killed in that event.

What is your fuel plan?
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:31 am to
All OTers have 3 full gas cans, with stabil and/or rotated out.

Ballers have:
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 8:34 am
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:46 am to
Fortifying in an area while hoarding goods and guns sounds good, it would also attract a lot of attention. a place like that would be very vulnerable to be armored vehicles. Having a small footprint, being able to live off of the land, being mobile would be the key to long term survival if society breaks down and people are in kill or be kill mode.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:06 am to
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For people who plan to drive further to a designated "survival zone", what happens if the EMP/catastrophe occurs when your car is out of fuel? Do you plan to rob for gas, or attempt to steal gas from another car in the middle of the night? Both choices may get you killed in that event.

What is your fuel plan?
Both my wife and I have vehicles that get 35mpg highway. I've never gone below a quarter of a tank and quite frankly, I only need 2 gallons of fuel per car to get to where we need to go. I always keep at least 20 gallons of gas in my garage; I fill up 6 5gallon cans in June with Stabil for hurricane season. At the end of October, I fill the cars with those, refill 4 or 5 of the 5 gallon cans with stabil for the winter time. I'm set when it comes to having enough gas to get to the property.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:32 am to
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Having a small footprint


Totally agree

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being able to live off of the land


agree

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being mobile


Somewhat agree...but at the same time, being mobile could get you killed as easily as fortifying in one location.

What happens if you are mobile and come across a roving band of killers? What happens if you stumble onto someone's property and they shoot you for trespassing?

Also, going mobile means you lose contact with neighbors that you've forged years of trust.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:36 am to
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Both my wife and I have vehicles that get 35mpg highway. I've never gone below a quarter of a tank and quite frankly, I only need 2 gallons of fuel per car to get to where we need to go. I always keep at least 20 gallons of gas in my garage; I fill up 6 5gallon cans in June with Stabil for hurricane season. At the end of October, I fill the cars with those, refill 4 or 5 of the 5 gallon cans with stabil for the winter time. I'm set when it comes to having enough gas to get to the property.



Perhaps you are prepared for a drive to property 40 miles away. You have a good plan.

What about people who need to "bug out" to property that is hours or a couple hundred miles away?

Most of us don't yet have sufficient survival property within an hour of our current location.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82054 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:40 am to
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What about people who need to "bug out" to property that is hours or a couple hundred miles away?

Most of us don't yet have sufficient survival property within an hour of our current location.
That is one of the main reasons why I was looking for property over the past couple of years within 60 miles of my location. Luckily, I married into a family that has 250 acres 40 miles north. You are correct; most people have their "bugout" locations a couple hours drive from where they are located. Those people need to be a little more aware of their fuel situation and have a legitimate plan.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:46 am to
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That is one of the main reasons why I was looking for property over the past couple of years within 60 miles of my location. Luckily, I married into a family that has 250 acres 40 miles north. You are correct; most people have their "bugout" locations a couple hours drive from where they are located. Those people need to be a little more aware of their fuel situation and have a legitimate plan.



My wife and I have recently started looking for property 15 - 20 miles outside the city.

At the moment, our long term bugout plan is to go to the family farm about 5 hours away. The farm is 1,500 acres split between timber and crop land.

We would need to leave within the first 48 hours to avoid the panic that will hit the population within the first week following the catastrophe.

My goal would be to get her and the children up there to safety as soon as possible, and then make one or two trips alone back to our house in SW Missouri to retrieve the rest of our supplies.

I need fuel for that plan...and right now i don't have suffienct fuel.

Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:51 am to
Serious and perhaps impossible question:

What is your plan if you, your wife, and children are surrounded by a roving band of maruaders who far outnumber you. The likelihood is that they will kill, probably rape your wife and enslave her, and who knows what they'll do to your children.

What do you do at that moment?

Side note: You do have a gun.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 9:57 am
Posted by Papercutninja
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:19 am to
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Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:31 am to
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My wife and I have not discussed this since we've had kids. Previously it was go down fighting, blaze of glory type stuff. With kids it's different, I imagine there are levels of existence deep inside people that would enable them to withstand horrible things to allow their children to survive.



Unfortunately, I imagine some people would act out the final scene of the movie "The Mist".

Which would be tragic.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:32 am to
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Posted by mizzoukills Serious and perhaps impossible question: What is your plan if you, your wife, and children are surrounded by a roving band of maruaders who far outnumber you. The likelihood is that they will kill, probably rape your wife and enslave her, and who knows what they'll do to your children. What do you do at that moment? Side note: You do have a gun.


First off if they are just on foot I'm plowing through. If vehicles are blocking the road I engage my roof mounted flame thrower as I slam it in reverse.
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