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re: OT parents with children in schools. Would you consider this unreasonable?
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:12 am to Makinbacon
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:12 am to Makinbacon
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As long as you're expectations are clear from the beginning.
Yes.
On the syllabus, discussed the first day in class, and I constantly remind them during the first six weeks.
I actually had one parent tell me that the class is difficult enough without them having to worry about formatting.
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:13 am to bigpetedatiga
What grade?
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:13 am to oilmanNO
8-12
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:16 am to bigpetedatiga
No problem with what you are doing and personally I like it.. Promotes organization and attention detail, now I wouldn't want those things to change an overall grade of a kid that is clearly grasping the material..
Personally, I've only had a couple pet peeves with a teacher this year.. She took a point off for my son writing the pound sign in front of his class number.. He's been doing this for four years and it's the first time it's not wanted.. No big deal, just thought it was pointless.. Second, him not truly grasping what Instagram was for an assignment and having points taken off for not using hashtags correctly.. My only issue is the school Promotes holding off on social media for as long as possible and at the very least until
7/8 grade, my son is in 5th.. Just found it a confusing message to the kids as my son has no desire to use social media
Personally, I've only had a couple pet peeves with a teacher this year.. She took a point off for my son writing the pound sign in front of his class number.. He's been doing this for four years and it's the first time it's not wanted.. No big deal, just thought it was pointless.. Second, him not truly grasping what Instagram was for an assignment and having points taken off for not using hashtags correctly.. My only issue is the school Promotes holding off on social media for as long as possible and at the very least until
7/8 grade, my son is in 5th.. Just found it a confusing message to the kids as my son has no desire to use social media
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 9:21 am
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:17 am to bigpetedatiga
OMG your job is like seaux important and you're sooo underappreciated. Teacherz are teh bedrock to society.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 9:19 am
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:21 am to bigpetedatiga
This just further affirms my position that most people in this world are dumbasses. Parents spend more time working to get the rules bent to fit their kids screw ups than raising the kid to follow the rules in the first place.
Like suddenly the material itself was so difficult at it's core, that it made them write in the margin and crumple the paper.
I probably had my fair share of deductions over time for things that I overlooked like that. Not trying to seem above it. But I deserved it and I learned form it. My high school English teacher was unbelievably strict. Was hard to get an A in that class. But I blew through any college English classes I had to take because of it.
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I actually had one parent tell me that the class is difficult enough without them having to worry about formatting.
Like suddenly the material itself was so difficult at it's core, that it made them write in the margin and crumple the paper.
I probably had my fair share of deductions over time for things that I overlooked like that. Not trying to seem above it. But I deserved it and I learned form it. My high school English teacher was unbelievably strict. Was hard to get an A in that class. But I blew through any college English classes I had to take because of it.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:21 am to bigpetedatiga
As long as you don't venture into this "a-hole territory"...
Kid gets in trouble for writing in cursive
Kid gets in trouble for writing in cursive
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:23 am to bigpetedatiga
What grade are we talking here and how many points do you deduct for these things? If it's like 6th, maybe 5th or above, I think it's fine. And if it's a point or two I think it's fine. But if this is like 4th or below, or you're taking off points to the point they're getting a failing grade, then that would be a bit too draconian.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:26 am to KG6
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Parents spend more time working to get the rules bent to fit their kids screw ups
Those parents are the customers and it used to be "the customer is always right". Teachers these days seem to forget that and want to teach and grade however they feel like instead of trying to satisfy the customer. Some times a conference will help get them in line and some times you gotta take more drastic measures after school in a parking lot. It's a shame it's gotten this bad but that's the way it is.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:27 am to Darth_Vader
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What grade are we talking here
Read the fricking thread, she's said it like three times.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:31 am to bigpetedatiga
quote:It isn't unreasonable if policy is clearly explained and the deductions are consistent and not overly punitive. Form matters, but substance should still take priority.
I have a policy of deducting points off of assignments when the students write in the margins or don't follow the instructed format.
I also deduct points for assignments turned in crumpled, folded up, or stained.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:33 am to bigpetedatiga
quote:that parent is an idiot and probably didn't do well as a student either. Ignore them.
I actually had one parent tell me that the class is difficult enough without them having to worry about formatting.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:34 am to LucasP
I will allow it. As long as they get a participation grade of B or higher
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:43 am to bigpetedatiga
quote:
I actually had one parent tell me that the class is difficult enough without them having to worry about formatting.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:48 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
i heard that they no longer teach cursive in school?!?! Seems crazy, but i guess they type everything now.
Pete, are you teaching English or Business writing? Seems like they need to learn how to properly compose a letter, or write a paper, especially if they are college bound.
Pete, are you teaching English or Business writing? Seems like they need to learn how to properly compose a letter, or write a paper, especially if they are college bound.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:50 am to bigpetedatiga
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Do you by chance work in a district where perhaps paper is limited or not easily accessible for students at home, ie a lower income school?
No, this is not an issue here.
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bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Ok now we all know you teach in the hood. Please lighten up before it gets ugly in cenla.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:53 am to bigpetedatiga
What class are you teaching? Also, are you taking off 1 point every time they go into the margins, or just a flat number off for improper formatting?
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:54 am to bigpetedatiga
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I actually had one parent tell me that the class is difficult enough without them having to worry about formatting.
Yeah but won't they have to know how to properly format papers once they go to college? So couldn't you say you are doing them a huge favor to make them ready for college?
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:57 am to bigpetedatiga
I think you are doing the kids -- and perhaps the parents -- a favor.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:58 am to bigpetedatiga
Not only reasonable, but you should do that.
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