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OT Licensed Electricians... pros and cons of backfeed cord extensions
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:43 pm
I am tired of running extension cords through the house during power outages and came across making a male to male backfeed extension cord that you can run through the dryer outlet. I get the fact that the male is live and you can get shocked, but is it an option that will give power to entire house (except for my large appliances)?
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:46 pm to caill430
You're going to kill yourself, your wife or one of your kids.
Other than that you are good.
Other than that you are good.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:48 pm to Slevin7
Don't forget he's going to kill the poor guy working on the lines unless he shuts the house main off from the line
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:50 pm to caill430
quote:how often are you having to deal with power outages?
during power outages
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:50 pm to caill430
quote:are not going to recommend
Licensed Electricians
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I get the fact that the male is live and you can get shocked
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:56 pm to caill430
It's called a suicide cord for a reason.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:59 pm to SuperSaint
I never had power outages except for storms and went almost two weeks no power after Katrina. I was looking for an options other than running wires or dropping 5K
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:03 pm to caill430
Affectionately known as the suicide cord for a reason.
If you have to ask you should not be fooling with it. You could kill someone. It's a simple concept and is safe IF AND ONLY IF you and everyone around it knows what it is and how it works.
If you have to ask you should not be fooling with it. You could kill someone. It's a simple concept and is safe IF AND ONLY IF you and everyone around it knows what it is and how it works.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:04 pm to caill430
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This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:07 pm to caill430
There is a reason why that’s called a suicide cord
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:13 pm to caill430
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I am tired of running extension cords through the house during power outages
What you are suggesting is totally unsafe for you, your family, and the linemen doing repairs on the line if you don't know what you are doing. Why don't you stop being cheap, invest in a whole house generator like normal folks, and stop trying to rig something up?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:17 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Don’t even need to do that if it’s too much money. Get an interlock kit, a small sub panel and a flanged inlet kit and you have yourself a manual transfer switch
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:29 pm to caill430
in all honesty...yes, a dryer cord with two male ends will give power to the whole house (within the rating of the generator that you are using). trouble is, if you are not pretty savvy, you can really frick some shite up inn your electrical system and also hurt someone.
if you don't want to buy a whole house generator, I would suggest you get someone to install a transfer switch the correct way and you will be a lot safer and still use your portable generator to power the house.
if you don't want to buy a whole house generator, I would suggest you get someone to install a transfer switch the correct way and you will be a lot safer and still use your portable generator to power the house.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:32 pm to caill430
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:32 pm to caill430
Pull your meter and hook it up there.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:34 pm to bee Rye
You don't even need a sub panel. If you have open room in your breaker box for a 30 amp 2 pole breaker. I have an inlet box on the other side of the garage wall from my box (you want the generator outside for obvious reasons) to plug in the generator. Get an interlock switch (piece of metal that won't let you turn on the generator breaker while the main is on). Now, when power goes out you can plug in the generator with a white man's cord and the flip on the breaker and the only power the circuits in your house you choose by flipping on those breakers. This is good up to 8500 watts I believe which is plenty enough for most ppl. I did this myself for about 150-200'bucks. Worth it's weight in gold when the power goes out.
PS the time to do this was 3 months ago, not when a hurricane is barreling down on you
PS the time to do this was 3 months ago, not when a hurricane is barreling down on you
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:34 pm to caill430
I did it legally at my house for like $200 including a 40ft generator cord.
This is what you need:
Power inlet box
10/3 wire
Generator extension cord
Flex conduit
Rain tight fittings
A 30a two pole breaker of whatever fits your box
An interlock kit for your box
Mount the box, turn off main breaker, run the wiring and conduit, put the interlock kit on, and wire and put the breaker in. Should take a novice an afternoon.
Check YouTube if you get lost
Eta: If you wanna be a cheap arse, get some 10/4 cord (terminology is important), a L14-30P plug, and whatever 30a two pole breaker fits your box. Wire up the plug, and wire up the breaker into your box. Turn off the main, and turn on your generator breaker for power. That is illegal. If your house burns down or you kill someone, it's on you, and insurance won't help you out. You will also go to jail if you kill someone
This is what you need:
Power inlet box
10/3 wire
Generator extension cord
Flex conduit
Rain tight fittings
A 30a two pole breaker of whatever fits your box
An interlock kit for your box
Mount the box, turn off main breaker, run the wiring and conduit, put the interlock kit on, and wire and put the breaker in. Should take a novice an afternoon.
Check YouTube if you get lost
Eta: If you wanna be a cheap arse, get some 10/4 cord (terminology is important), a L14-30P plug, and whatever 30a two pole breaker fits your box. Wire up the plug, and wire up the breaker into your box. Turn off the main, and turn on your generator breaker for power. That is illegal. If your house burns down or you kill someone, it's on you, and insurance won't help you out. You will also go to jail if you kill someone
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:34 pm to caill430
If you die it is no big deal, but there is potential to back feed your power grid and kill a lineman. I know everybody says they will open their main breaker and it is no problem, but people forget. A guy in Mobile AL forgot and a lineman was killed, he was charged with manslaughter.
LINK
"The lineman killed yesterday was working for Pike Electric and picked up a line that was connected to someone's house that hooked up a generator and did not disconnect from the distribution system. The lineman's name was Ronnie Adams, age unknown. He had two children and a wife. As far as I know he was from Louisiana. They are trying to set up a fund for his family,"
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"The lineman killed yesterday was working for Pike Electric and picked up a line that was connected to someone's house that hooked up a generator and did not disconnect from the distribution system. The lineman's name was Ronnie Adams, age unknown. He had two children and a wife. As far as I know he was from Louisiana. They are trying to set up a fund for his family,"
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:38 pm to caill430
quote:
I am tired of running extension cords through the house during power outages
Is this considered a first world problem? Problem seems awful petty, but then again first world folks shouldnt' be having a lot of power outages to get "tired of".
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:00 pm to caill430
But a 10 circuit manual transfer switch from Reliance
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