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Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:15 am to Ghost Hog
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Any ideas on what happened or what could be wrong? It was one of the scariest things I have ever seen. Thanks in advance.
Check for Narcolepsy. Had a guy go out on me at lunch on a contractor crew. Very similar description to what you said. When the person falls asleep they are very hard to wake up.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:55 am to Ghost Hog
Very surprised the EMTs did not take him to the hospital without making him sign a waiver first.
Without knowing more than you've told us on the board, no one here can rule out a sudden cardiac event - best time to go to the ER would have been last night, second best time is right now.
Sudden return to consciousness without any lingering confusion would, to me, lessen the likelihood of a hypoglycemic event or seizure. Dehydration seems unlikely too since he was sitting in a bar.
Without knowing more than you've told us on the board, no one here can rule out a sudden cardiac event - best time to go to the ER would have been last night, second best time is right now.
Sudden return to consciousness without any lingering confusion would, to me, lessen the likelihood of a hypoglycemic event or seizure. Dehydration seems unlikely too since he was sitting in a bar.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:03 pm to Ghost Hog
Would 100% have gone to the hospital.
44yo who isn't on any substance shouldn't:
1. Have a random seizure
2. A sudden arrhythmia
3. Become unresponsive
For no reason.
44yo who isn't on any substance shouldn't:
1. Have a random seizure
2. A sudden arrhythmia
3. Become unresponsive
For no reason.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:06 pm to wypipos
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Very surprised the EMTs did not take him to the hospital without making him sign a waiver first.
I feel confident they had him sign a tablet or piece of paper.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:09 pm to Ghost Hog
Vasovagal episode possibly. See a cardiologist stat
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:21 pm to Ghost Hog
Of they did chest compressions then he didn't have a pulse and they broke his ribs.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:58 pm to Ghost Hog
I suspect a seizure disorder. There are different types of seizures that don't involve convulsions. A neurological workup would be a good idea.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:16 pm to kisatchie53
He did sign something. I wasn't listening in on the evaluation but I saw him sign a tablet
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:06 pm to Ghost Hog
but he said right before it happened his heart began racing and git light headed. After that he woke up on the floor.
VTach. Or some weird block. PSVT. The heart racing is a huge clue that it is cardiac in nature. Guy needs a cardiologist and Holter monitor. Tomorrow is Monday. He should have an appointment Monday. Until then he probably should not drive or be alone.
VTach. Or some weird block. PSVT. The heart racing is a huge clue that it is cardiac in nature. Guy needs a cardiologist and Holter monitor. Tomorrow is Monday. He should have an appointment Monday. Until then he probably should not drive or be alone.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:32 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Internist here. I agree with this and JAFERD. Seizure unlikely given lack of post ictal period (confusion following a seizure). Hypoglycemia does not come on so suddenly. Vasovagal is unlikely to occur while sitting down unless bearing down like others have mentioned on a toilet. Given the pre-syncopal palpitations it is very likely ventricular arrhythmia, intermittent heart block or SVT. He needs an EKG, a cardiologist and a holter monitor / implanted loop recorder. He should have gone to the ER.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:33 pm to Ghost Hog
Sounds like syncope to me. Needs to see pcp, maybe cardiologist. Seizure is on differential but doesn’t really sound like one.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:56 pm to LSU alum wannabe
The docs are out. If he were to see a cardiologist Monday would his troponin be elevated?
Cardiac event, unknown downtime, pulseless? If talking a code situation with a real round of CPR and meds ACLS etc. his trip would be sky high. Within a 24 hour period, how long before it normalizes?
Cardiac event, unknown downtime, pulseless? If talking a code situation with a real round of CPR and meds ACLS etc. his trip would be sky high. Within a 24 hour period, how long before it normalizes?
Posted on 1/9/22 at 6:55 pm to LRB1967
yep, like absence or tonic seizures.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 7:01 pm to LSU alum wannabe
There's any myriad of issues he could have. Ranging from simple dehydration to some weird syndrome. He should schedule an appointment with a cardiologist and bring a family history with him if relevant.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 7:15 pm to Ghost Hog
I very much appreciate all the responses. I'm still shaken up over the entire course of events. He has been texting today and seems alright for the time being. Our EMT friend called him and he's going to see the doctor in the morning. I don't post all that much but the OT is a pretty great source of instant information. Very many thanks baws! 
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:00 pm to Ghost Hog
Have you considered your friend possibly doesn’t care for your company and was merely trying to avoid interaction with the rest of your group? Commonly known as Ostrich Syndrome.
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This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:36 pm to Ghost Hog
Syncopal episode
Schedule appointment with primary care provider
Was he having any chest pain at the time?
Schedule appointment with primary care provider
Was he having any chest pain at the time?
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:51 pm to ZULU
Not to my knowledge on any chest pain. Very sudden
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:53 pm to Ghost Hog
Seizure or some type of mini stroke
Did anyone check his pulse before they started doing compressions?
Did anyone check his pulse before they started doing compressions?
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 8:54 pm
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