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Only 6,000 flu deaths in 2020 according to CDC.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:19 am
Link to CDC website Have to scroll down a little to get to the chart. This seems off considering the CDC also estimates about 56,000 people die each year of the flu. Now it definitely could be that it is hard to get the data quickly enough to accurately say how many have died, but begs the question then how is it so easy to get accurate info so quickly on corona deaths but not the flu? Also it’s not that the corona deaths are being severely understated like the flu deaths appear to be at this time, because the number of total deaths would show that to be the case and they don’t.
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:20 am to sabes que
there are really 54,035 but they all tested positve for covid-antibodies
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:20 am to sabes que
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:21 am to sabes que
Corona is clearly killing a lot of people who would have died of the flu or something else anyway. Probably 20000 or so of the deaths would have died this year even if corona didnt exist
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 9:22 am
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:21 am to sabes que
Well yeah the 52k got chalked up as Wuhan Flu
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:22 am to sabes que
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Only 6,000 flu deaths in 2020 according to CDC.
It's just a comparison of the months going back to when they had the first confirmed case of COVID-19. Flu season usually starts in October/November and is usually referred to in terms of a "season" like 2019-20. They're not including on that chart flu deaths from start of the 2019-20 season.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:24 am to BluegrassBelle
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Flu season usually starts in October/November
Yes, but it usually peaks in February, which it appears to have done this year.
This graph is the peak month frequency of flu from 1982-1983 season to 2017-2018 season.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 9:27 am
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:24 am to sabes que
Flu deaths are computer model generated based on how many positive results and other factors. Also FLU death totals are also real actual pneumonia deaths as well.
People who have pneumonia now are tested for Covid-19. In the past, if they died, it would have been classified as a flu death.
People who have pneumonia now are tested for Covid-19. In the past, if they died, it would have been classified as a flu death.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:25 am to BluegrassBelle
February is by far the worst month for the flu, and January, February, and March are 3 if the top 4 worst months.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:25 am to sabes que
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Only 6,000 flu deaths in 2020 according to CDC
Wobble baby wobble baby wobble
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:26 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Yes, but it usually peaks in February, which it appears to have done this year.
Right. I was just pointing out that the chart he presented doesn't give any mortality stats from the start of the season, which occurred in 2019.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:28 am to sabes que
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This seems off considering the CDC also estimates about 56,000 people die each year of the flu.
No, they don’t. You are picking the worst year in 40+ years and calling it average.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:29 am to BluegrassBelle
Right but if the worst months are behind us for this year, and we are more than 40 percent through this year, the number is not on track to be anywhere near 56,000.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:30 am to BluegrassBelle
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Right. I was just pointing out that the chart he presented doesn't give any mortality stats from the start of the season, which occurred in 2019.
Right, and I'm just pointing out that flu peak is usually in February and appears to have also been February this season.
Meaning the bulk of deaths should have also coincided in that time-frame, which is covered by these CDC numbers.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:30 am to sabes que
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February is by far the worst month for the flu, and January, February, and March are 3 if the top 4 worst months.
Typically, yes. But Flu B fired up early this year. It was one of the earlier starts we've had since 2003-2004 I believe.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:31 am to Cosmo
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Corona is clearly killing a lot of people who would have died of the flu or something else anyway. Probably 20000 or so of the deaths would have died this year even if corona didnt exist
Does anyone know the percentage of deaths that were people who were living in some kind of assisted living situation beforehand?
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:31 am to sabes que
Also, this is why people need to stop reading raw data with their brains off looking for gotchyas.
The chart doesn’t claim 6,000 flu deaths in 2020. It claims 6000 deaths where the sole cause of death was listed on the certificate as flu.
If the person had both flu and pneumonia listed as cause of death on the certificate, that would be in a different column.
Looks like it’s 30k+ of flu related deaths to me.
The chart doesn’t claim 6,000 flu deaths in 2020. It claims 6000 deaths where the sole cause of death was listed on the certificate as flu.
If the person had both flu and pneumonia listed as cause of death on the certificate, that would be in a different column.
Looks like it’s 30k+ of flu related deaths to me.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 9:35 am
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:33 am to Kingpenm3
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Does anyone know the percentage of deaths that were people who were living in some kind of assisted living situation beforehand?
For those states reporting such deaths, it's looking to be in the neighborhood of 50%.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:33 am to sabes que
The title of the article literally repeats what I said.
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