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One more dumb idea for Baton Rouge morning commute - all that does is add a bottleneck

Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57179 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:07 pm
to split.


There’s a new idea that could help ease congestion along I-12 and eventually elsewhere in the state.



Sen. Dale Erdey (R-Livingston) wants DOTD to convert the inside shoulders along I-12 between Walker and the 10/12 split to carpool lanes, or high occupancy vehicle (HOV) lanes. It’s a relatively cheap way to add another lane to the interstate, and the plan already passed a Senate committee with unanimous approval.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43037 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:15 pm to
Good question, what happens when the express lane runs out
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Sen. Dale Erdey (R-Livingston) wants DOTD to convert the inside shoulders along I-12 between Walker and the 10/12 split to carpool lanes, or high occupancy vehicle (HOV) lanes. It’s a relatively cheap way to add another lane to the interstate, and the plan already passed a Senate committee with unanimous approval.


I think this is a good idea.

And I think a reversible (and possibly tolled) HOV/Express lane should be incorporated into the new I-10 widening. Only 4 wheeled passenger vehicles with 2 or more passengers allowed.

For I-12, it wouldn't really take much effort beyond signage and new markings.

I don't see why Louisiana's cities haven't set this up already. Eventually we could probably have park and ride shuttles using that HOV lane as well.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 12:25 pm
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

what happens when the express lane runs out


All the carpoolers are ahead of you earth killing one person in a tank heathens?




Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
4190 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:21 pm to
News said it would cost $750k. Apply that to the loop fund. Gotta almost cover one study.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:24 pm to
My problem with the idea is this:

1. Yes, there are wider than normal and required median shoulders in SOME parts of that route. There are also sections, like at Millerville where lanes have been shifted over to accommodate the recently added on-ramps and over the bridges like at the Amite River. How do they propose to handle spots like that?


2. I believe that HOV lanes will not work unless they are dedicated and separated from the other lanes with barriers, otherwise you get too much weaving. Placing a barrier to do that will probably not result in enough inside shoulder width remaining to meet interstate requirements.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:27 pm to
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I believe that HOV lanes will not work unless they are dedicated and separated from the other lanes with barriers


HOV/Express lanes are often not separated from other lanes. They are not separated on I-55 or I-40 in Memphis.

Chicago has dedicated HOV lanes in most areas, but a physical barrier for the reversible express lanes where there are space constraints (Kennedy, Eisenhower expressway closer to the city). The physical separation is required if the lanes are reversible depending on the flow of traffic or if they are tolled.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:29 pm to
Some OT'er will have his sex doll buckled into the passenger seat in no time.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

HOV/Express lanes are often not separated from other lanes.

The physical separation is required if the lanes are reversible depending on the flow of traffic or if they are tolled.




Well, then really they need to do nothing but proclaim it to be ok to drive on the shoulder (Oh, as long as you have another person in the car). They're already driving on the shoulders now.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Well, then really they need to do nothing but proclaim it to be ok to drive on the shoulder (Oh, as long as you have another person in the car). They're already driving on the shoulders now.



Rumble reflector Strips......and some well placed State Troopers.... would stop that.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

One more dumb idea for Baton Rouge morning commute


This is actually a good idea - and so were the ramp meters.

What Louisiana needs to do is restrict trucks with more than 2 axles to the right two lanes only.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
48418 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:37 pm to
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What Louisiana needs to do is restrict trucks with more than 2 axles to the right two lanes only.


I'd rather a dedicated/tolled 18-wheeler lane than an HOV one.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Rumble reflector Strips......and some well placed State Troopers.... would stop that.


There will be no room left for troopers.

How do you handle the substandard shoulder widths that will remain, even without barriers. Along that stretch, between about Sherwood to the split, the average median shoulder now is about 13 feet. Adding a 12 ft lane will leave you about a foot of inside shoulder. In a region signed for 60mph, that is very dangerous.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:40 pm to
Same as 3 laming to the west side of the basin. Gotta bottleneck into two lanes...on the basin.....where the problem is
Posted by marcus3000
Member since Jan 2018
984 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:41 pm to
Her name is Hinata, and she is my waifu you filthy round eye gaijin.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:53 pm to
GA 400 does this (actually for the right shoulder) during rush hour and it works just fine. But of course Louisiana doesn’t want it.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 12:59 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:54 pm to
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GA 400 does this and it works just fine. But of course Louisiana doesn’t want it.



Just look in this thread. There are some that are actually afraid of it.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61311 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:55 pm to
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Good question, what happens when the express lane runs out


Traffic. ALOT of traffic.

That backs up into more traffic.

Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57179 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:55 pm to
If you want a HOV lane it can't stop at the split.
It will just cause more gridlock
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Traffic. ALOT of traffic.

That backs up into more traffic.


Eventually the I-10 widening will happen.
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