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re: Once again we are asking why people don’t have flood insurance.

Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:50 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:50 am to
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I have a vacation house at St Augustine beach. I do have flood insurance on it. It’s expensive and goes up every year. My total insurance on that home is now over $4000 a year. Keep in mind, this place is small. I can understand why people don’t buy it simply because the cost is so high. I’ve debated canceling it myself.

it's very likely that the american taxpayers are subsidizing your insurance rates so you're not paying nearly market rate
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:51 am to
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Then you'll have a certain group of Congress call for government sponsored flood insurance.

already exists, bro
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45420 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:51 am to
Correct. frick government handouts. Unless I need them, then they are cool.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10131 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:52 am to
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already exists, bro


Talking about FEMA? Doesn't cover it all.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:54 am to
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have a vacation house at St Augustine beach. I do have flood insurance on it. It’s expensive and goes up every year. My total insurance on that home is now over $4000 a year. Keep in mind, this place is small. I can understand why people don’t buy it simply because the cost is so high. I’ve debated canceling it mysel


Such is they way insurance works. When it's really expensive, it's usually because your risks are extremely high.

When it's cheap, it's because your risk are extrmemly low. Shocking news, I know.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:54 am to
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already exists, bro


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Talking about FEMA? Doesn't cover it all.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:54 am to
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Talking about FEMA? Doesn't cover it all.

NFIP

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The National Flood Insurance Program aims to reduce the impact of flooding on private and public structures. It does so by providing affordable insurance to property owners, renters and businesses and by encouraging communities to adopt and enforce floodplain management regulations


that "affordable" insurance is really just subsidized insurance. the American taxpayer pay the difference b/w market rate and this government rate.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37474 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:55 am to
It’s sort of bullshite that home insurance doesn’t already include it anyway. Why is it optional?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:57 am to
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It’s sort of bullshite that home insurance doesn’t already include it anyway. Why is it optional?

i don't really know if houses with mortgages located in Yuma, AZ need flood insurance
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45420 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:58 am to
As the other guy stated, if you live in a high risk area, the math would make insurance so high, no one would buy it. So they separate it and make it "optional." But in reality, locals just beg for gov relief.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:59 am to
Easiest $450 check I write every year.

I also went through Katrina as a 15 year old so I'm over cautious about it.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:59 am to
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It’s sort of bullshite that home insurance doesn’t already include it anyway. Why is it optional?



I always figured that the premiums would be so high if it included floods that private insurers just choose to not cover it. The fact that the government has the NFIP just makes this decision easier for the private companies.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:00 am to
The Earth is flat. You will flood!
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:12 am to
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thought it was? I technically live in a flood zone and was required to pay flood insurance even though it hasn't flooded in the area in over 40 years.


That's why they call it a 100 year flood plain. You buy extremely overpriced insurance that has a ton of outs in it to insure your risk of a catastrophic flood occurring sometime in the next 100 years.
Posted by Hoovertigah
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2013
3820 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:21 am to
Most don’t or can’t cause it’s like adding or having a car note. You just hope it doesn’t flood.

Now, if you smoke and don’t have flood insurance, you’re an idiot.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7271 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:23 am to
I cancelled mine after August 2016. If i didn't flood then I never will.
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1015 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:27 am to
You know why they don’t get insurance? Because they know FEMA will help them anyway for free!

After the 2016 floods, everyone without flood insurance was given the Shelter at Home Program. And they were still complaining about how slow it was/didn’t fix enough things. You didn’t have insurance, you were lucky to get anything.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4818 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:31 am to
Like Louisiana is one to talk?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:31 am to
Only if the house is in an A or V flood zone. B/C/X zones aren't required to carry flood insurance on most loans. Problem is that about 25-30% of annual NFIP flood claims come out of those B/C/X flood zones that lots of people like to refer to as "no flood zones". Most people in those zones don't buy flood insurance and then end up dependent on some sort of government bailout or taking out a 2nd mortgage to be able to make repairs. But lots of people don't have the means to afford a disaster loan/2nd mortgage to pay for repairs and those houses end up being foreclosed on with taxpayers eating the losses on the mortgages that were federally backed loans.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26324 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:32 am to
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It already is, if you are in a FEMA determined flood plain.

Lots of floods happen in areas outside of FEMA determined flood plains. See Houston and Baton Rouge flooding.
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