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re: On this day 157 years ago, William T. Sherman presented Savannah, GA to Lincoln...
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:08 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:08 pm to RollTide1987
quote:god damned tyrant terrorist
William T. Sherman
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:12 pm to FredBear
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I simply saying in the aftermath the federal government used the opportunity to greatly assert their powers over states rights and perhaps that was a predictable result but it's true nevertheless.
That's a better word.
There's a difference between federal power and executive power, and over the last few decades, congress has been happy to cede more and more power to the executive.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:18 pm to geauxtigers87
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Imagine if the North had done this? Yall on this board would flip your shite if that happened today.
You’re making everyone’s point. People look at the Civil War through a 2020 lens. And not through what life was actually like in the 1800s.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:26 pm to Damone
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The US government was eminently forgiving of the treasonous South even after such a bitter war.
Dumbass doesn’t realize no one was convicted of treason.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:30 pm to LongueCarabine
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The US government was eminently forgiving of the treasonous South even after such a bitter war.
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Dumbass doesn’t realize no one was convicted of treason.
During his presidency, Lincoln issued 64 pardons for war-related offences: 22 for conspiracy, 17 for treason, 12 for rebellion, nine for holding an office under the Confederacy, and four for serving with the rebels. Lincoln had intended to issue further pardons but Congress “objected to plans as too lenient.” Nevertheless, on May 29, 1865, his successor, President Andrew Johnson, issued a proclamation granting amnesty to most Confederates.
So...they weren't convicted of treason because they were granted amnesty by the President.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:38 pm to FredBear
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expand their powers over states rights
That's because there's no such thing as "States' Rights".
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:43 pm to SCLibertarian
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when a federal army made up of soldiers from places you've never heard of or been to descends on your homeland
Seems like you’re leaving out the beginning of the story.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:44 pm to LSUinMA
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Seems like you’re leaving out the beginning of the story.
Yeah...I'm pretty sure there was a bombardment of a federal fort by Confederate insurrectionists in Charleston Harbor which precipitated the invasion.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:47 pm to madmaxvol
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So...they weren't convicted of treason because they were granted amnesty by the President.
Potato or potahto.
The fact is no one was convicted of treason.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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That's because there's no such thing as "States' Rights".
Jefferson and Madison wrote otherwise in the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions in response to the Alien and Sedition Acts. This makes sense, considering that the Constitution was not ratified by the people, but rather by the states.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:53 pm to LongueCarabine
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So...they weren't convicted of treason because they were granted amnesty by the President.
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Potato or potahto.
The fact is no one was convicted of treason.
Yes...they weren't convicted of treason...doesn't mean they didn't commit treason.
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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Amnesty does not equal innocence. Look up Amy Biehl, if you don't understand the difference.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:00 pm to OKBoomerSooner
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The North made the war about destroying the South.
No, they didn't. The South destroyed itself.
The most devastating thing to happen to the South was when the confederate government required everyone turn in their specie for notes. The effect of that would be that, after the war, no one had any real money, just worthless notes. Therefore, when the sheriff came for the taxes, the landowners couldn't pay. But if someone showed up with legal tender, all they had to do was pay the taxes on the land and it would be theirs. That's what opened the door for the carpetbaggers, they had legal tender with which to buy enormous estates for pennies on the dollar.
Luckily, my GG-grandfather didn't turn over his gold. He supplied horses, cattle and beans, but not his US money. Thus he was able to pay the taxes and keep his estate to be handed down 4 generations later to me and my siblings and cousins.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:02 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Luckily, my GG-grandfather didn't turn over his gold. He supplied horses, cattle and beans, but not his US money. Thus he was able to pay the taxes and keep his estate to be handed down 4 generations later to me and my siblings and cousins.
And don’t forget your street.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:03 pm to Epaminondas
No shite Sherlock
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:04 pm to doubleb
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:07 pm to SemiNoblePursuit
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This board is rife with Confederate sympathizers. Don’t be shocked if your upvote/downvote ratio is arse
What the hell are you doing in the South?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:11 pm to madmaxvol
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Amnesty does not equal innocence. Look up Amy Biehl, if you don't understand the difference.
If someone is not convicted of treason, they have not committed treason.
Not a difficult thing to understand for anyone with a brain.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:12 pm to SCLibertarian
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Jefferson and Madison wrote otherwise in the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions
Are those documents the law of the land, or is it the Constitution?
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George Washington was so appalled by [the resolutions] that he told Patrick Henry that if "systematically and pertinaciously pursued", they would "dissolve the union or produce coercion"
Yeah, Jefferson wrote a lot of shite. You ever read The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:13 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Sherman would fit right in with today's DC politics.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:14 pm to doubleb
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And don’t forget your street.
Which one?
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