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Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:48 am to
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The Union was supposed to be voluntary, if a state wanted to leave it should have been allowed. The South attempted to do so.

Sounds as though you are admitting that, much like Communism, you can vote your way in but you have to shoot your way out.


Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40953 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:48 am to
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People should know when they’re conquered.

Every liberty-loving poster needs to throw this quote in your face the next time you talk about Covid mandates and tyranny.
Posted by JoeXiden
Member since Oct 2021
281 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:50 am to
It’s a friendly reminder that “war crimes” are justified as long as you win! I bet Hitler and Sherm are cracking some cold ones in Hell talking about war stories.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:51 am to
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To think of all the death and destruction that was caused by aristocratic Confederate landholders and aristocrats who couldn’t willingly let go of their slave economy. Sad.


You really believe this fairy tale, huh?

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69694 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:51 am to
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Every liberty-loving poster needs to throw this quote in your face the next time you talk about Covid mandates and tyranny.



I’d like to think they’d be smarter than that.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16871 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:53 am to
Some of you are probably already familiar with this book because I heard about it in this forum but for some perspective from the South's point of view check out "The South Was Right " by James Ronald Kennedy and Walter Donald Kennedy.

Before the teeth grinders unload, I'm not asserting whether they're right or wrong, it's just a suggested read to anyone who may be interested. If not feel free to ignore it
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69694 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:53 am to
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It’s a friendly reminder that “war crimes” are justified as long as you win! I bet Hitler and Sherm are cracking some cold ones in Hell talking about war stories.


By that logic LeMay, Spaatz, the crew of the Enola Gay, and the crews of all the B-17s and B-29s that bombed Germany and Japan are right there with them.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:54 am to
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Sherman's "job" was not only as the designated sadistic "Punisher" of the South, but also to destroy and vandalize as much olde world architecture and infrastructure possible.


Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23876 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:54 am to
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He was a certifiable PSYCHOPATH & SADIST. I'd assume for earlier kicks, this guy pulled the legs off of kittins when he was a kid (up to age 13 )


“War is hell”. Sorry your side got their shite pushed in. That tends to happen when you depend on generals like joseph e johnston and hood.
Posted by tigerinexile
The greatest parish
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:55 am to
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Statements like these show you have absolutely zero comprehension of history or social sciences. In the 1860's, your average Southerner would have been hundreds of miles away from the nearest federal building or installation. The United States as a centralized entity didn't exist in the minds of 99% of the population. You were a Virginian, a South Carolinian, a Georgian. So when a federal army made up of soldiers from places you've never heard of or been to descends on your homeland, is your average Southerner supposed to fight with the foreign hordes or defend his own


Well said
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43935 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:57 am to
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One can simultaneously recognize the evils of slavery and also realize that the Union victory was the primary factor in the death of the American republic and the reason why our current federal government is a centralized leviathan which seeks to control and regulate every facet of our lives.


Preach!
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23876 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:58 am to
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Yes because nothing says limited government like supporting a faction who wants to deny a political unit the right to freely leave a political union by democratic means.


You didn’t finish your sentence. Freely leave a political union by democratic means TO UPHOLD THE INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY.

If it was actually democratic, the blacks would be allowed to vote. Only land owning whites were allowed to vote which is the way fake libertarian lost cause cucks like yourself seem to prefer.

This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 9:01 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:58 am to
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Almost every acre that Sherman set foot on was burned to the ground. That was what these poor South Carolinians fought for. South Carolina was absolutely destroyed by that man and his army.



South Carolina started a war that resulted in the deaths of something like 3% of the population of the United States.

Every signer of the SC Ordinance of Secession is lucky they weren't dragged out into the middle of Charleston and executed.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69694 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:00 am to
And let’s not forget that the South was only against federal overreach when it went against their interests. They were more than happy to use the power of the federal government to intrude on state sovereignty when it came to catching runaway slaves.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6368 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:02 am to
LSU LSU LSU!
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40953 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:04 am to
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Only land owning whites were allowed to vote

So the Constitution isn't valid? Only white landowners ratified that. You're parroting the same language the social justice crowd uses to excuse destroying the philosophical foundations of this country. Who's the cuck?
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:05 am to
I read some of it. It gives some views from the side of the South. It isn't so cut and dry that one side started the war and the other was blameless.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40953 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:05 am to
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Every signer of the SC Ordinance of Secession is lucky they weren't dragged out into the middle of Charleston and executed.

Those traitors who signed the Declaration of Independence should have been dealt with!

-GetCocky11
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:06 am to
What a bout the black slave owners?
Posted by Perrin Aybara
Member since Dec 2021
179 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:07 am to
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By that logic LeMay, Spaatz, the crew of the Enola Gay, and the crews of all the B-17s and B-29s that bombed Germany and Japan are right there with them.


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