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re: OLOL is givimg employees until 10/31 to be vaccinated or be fired.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:48 am to dgnx6
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:48 am to dgnx6
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I know people think, oh you have to get a flu shot to work at any hospital. But that isn't true.
Normally the person will have to wear a specific level of PPE during the whole of the flue season, especially those working bedside.
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:48 am to LegendInMyMind
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I have no problem with OLOL "mandating" the vaccines, that is their decision. What I do have a problem with is the ultimatum that came a day after seeing them claim they are short-staffed and overwhelmed and people are dying because of it. Seems like if the situation was so dire you wouldn't be taking a chance of running off what help you do have, because, they don't have to work for OLOL.
Didn't see that. But the mixed messages from our media outlets, the White House, and the CDC combined with the censorship of any viewpoints that challenge the current political agenda has definitely built a lot of distrust.
Since I didn't see the article you are apparently noting....did the "overwhelmed" message come from OLOL officially or is this some political fear campaign that's being being amplified by CNN/Mother Jones/HuffPo/Democratic Underground?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:48 am to TigerAlumni2010
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You would think that the shortage isn't that bad if they are taking measures like this.
Possibly they believe the unvaccinated employees are causing more shortages than they are solving.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:48 am to LSUJML
quote:Where the frick they get this from?
several weeks and possibly months before we reach the peak of this surge.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:49 am to LegendInMyMind
Is there any commissions to hospitals and clinics for how many vaccinations they administer?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:49 am to dewster
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OLOL apparently thinks that they'd lose fewer man-hours by people walking away from their job than they would people taking extended time off for quarantine.
This doesn't hold much weight when, as we've been told, the vaccines aren't supposed to stop you from getting Covid. With Delta, those vaccinated employees are still likely to get Covid. The hospital isn't going to accept liability of putting a known positive employee in contact with patients, even if that employee is vaccinated. That would be going against known data that vaccinated people can still spread Covid.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 11:51 am
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:49 am to dragginass
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Yeah, but those werent experimental MRNA vaccines....
Setting that argument aside the traditional viral vector J&J vaccine is available.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:50 am to Obtuse1
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Normally the person will have to wear a specific level of PPE during the whole of the flue season, especially those working bedside.
Correct. You don't see those doctors and nurses walking into a room with a Covid patient with just a mask on. They have a gown, N95+ surgical mask, face shield, and gloves.
Should be a hint of how foolish the masking requirements imposed by Louisiana are right now. They aren't stopping you from getting infected if you are in close contact with sick people.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:50 am to dewster
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Since I didn't see the article you are apparently noting....did the "overwhelmed" message come from OLOL officially or is this some political fear campaign that's being being amplified by CNN/Mother Jones/HuffPo/Democratic Underground?
Just go find the press conference thread yesterday and watch the parade of hospital representatives.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:50 am to fightin tigers
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Possibly they believe the unvaccinated employees are causing more shortages than they are solving.
So the hospital is going to put vaccinated employees who are COVId positive around their patients?
Seems intelligent.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:50 am to LegendInMyMind
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This doesn't hold much weight when, as we've been told, the vaccines aren't supposed to stop you from getting Covid
Won't prevent the chances completely, greatly reduces.
Also reduces the chances of developing symptoms that would tax hospital resources.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:51 am to dewster
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did the "overwhelmed" message come from OLOL
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There are no beds left. These are the darkest days of this pandemic. We are no longer giving adequate care to these patients. — Dr. Catherine O’Neal, Our Lady of the Lake chief medical officer and infectious disease expert
This is 100% a lie & she should be censured by the medical community
This is from the guy with LDH
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This is a staffing issue. Louisiana is 6-7K nurses short. Federal disaster teams will assist the state but there are not enough. These people typically come in after earthquakes, hurricanes. "Quite the marker of how severe the situation is right now," says @JoeKanter
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:51 am to teke184
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If people making or administering the drug accept liability for side effects, I can overlook FDA approval.
Technically you can, you just have to show they knew of the side effects and failed to warn people.
Most pharmaceutical lawsuits involve some kind of knowledge that a product was dangerous and a failure to warn of this dangers.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:51 am to RB10
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So the hospital is going to put vaccinated employees who are COVId positive around their patients?
Seems intelligent.
They have been putting covid carrying employees around patients almost all throughout
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:52 am to LSUDAN1
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Beginning in September, we will require all employees to either be vaccinated or complete an education program on a quarterly basis, in addition to continuing to wear masks once the mask mandate is lifted.
Looks like not really mandated. If you don't get it you just have to wear a mask and do education?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:52 am to LegendInMyMind
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This doesn't hold much weight when, as we've been told, the vaccines aren't supposed to stop you from getting Covid.
They reduce the risk of infection, but they by no means eliminate it.
As of right now, the best practice for a doctor or nurse to avoid an infection is to use proper PPE and get vaccinated.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:52 am to fightin tigers
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Won't prevent the chances completely, greatly reduces.
Also reduces the chances of developing symptoms that would tax hospital resources.
So, you're saying that a hospital is going to put a known positive person, who happens to be vaccinated, in contact with patients and accept that liability even when it has been shown that vaccinated people can still spread Covid?
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 11:53 am
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:53 am to dewster
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Didn't think the FDA moved that quickly.
They normally don’t but they added staff to get more of the data reviewed.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:53 am to HighEndSight
I bet that education program is a blast 
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:53 am to LegendInMyMind
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So, you're saying that a hospital is going to put a known positive person, who happens to be vaccinated, in contact with patients and accept that liability even when it has been shown that vaccinated people can still spread Covid?
Hate to tell you, but employees have been reporting to work for months even though they tested positive for covid.
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