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re: Ole Miss student found shot 8 times in lake bottom...UPDATE: Arrest has been made
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:31 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:31 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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. So is that what’s being argued here
Yes except way less coherently.
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:45 pm to Purple Spoon
There are cell towers covering the ride up, from both ends of the lake. There is another tower not far north of her recovery site. His and her cell phones appear to have been in proximity from sometime in the early hours of Saturday, until his arrest.
How important will this shared E-path be in the legal process?
How important will this shared E-path be in the legal process?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:59 pm to Hangit
I know it’s not in the papers, but there is overwhelming physical evidence.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:01 pm to vl100butch
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The one thing I notice is that the local police are being VERY close-mouthed ...
What more do you expect them to say? They investigated, gathered evidence, and made an arrest within 48 hours.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:13 pm to Rebel
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I know it’s not in the papers, but there is overwhelming physical evidence.
What are you hearing? Understood that until officially released, all is rumor.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:17 pm to Hangit
Massive amount of dna in the truck. But it probably hasn’t been tested yet.
I get it’s a “rumor” at this point. But we aren’t really trying the case in this thread either.
I get it’s a “rumor” at this point. But we aren’t really trying the case in this thread either.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:30 pm to Rebel
Have only partially kept up with this, but I have seen a couple of the rumors which I think are ridiculous.
1) He did it in self-defense.
Hogwash. A grown man doesn't self defend himself from a little college girl by shooting her 8 times. And there's no evidence she came at him armed.
2) She tried to commit suicide.
Unless she's the latest victim of the Clinton Body Count, suicide by firing 8 shots into one's own torso seems nigh impossible. A magazine that holds 8 shots is almost certainly a .45 ACP. That's a big round. You're not gonna last 8 shots.
This dude did it. She was preggo and he didn't want anything to do with it OR he was a stalker and caught her with someone else. Both scenarios seem equally plausible to me. I will be really surprised if one or the other isn't true.
1) He did it in self-defense.
Hogwash. A grown man doesn't self defend himself from a little college girl by shooting her 8 times. And there's no evidence she came at him armed.
2) She tried to commit suicide.
Unless she's the latest victim of the Clinton Body Count, suicide by firing 8 shots into one's own torso seems nigh impossible. A magazine that holds 8 shots is almost certainly a .45 ACP. That's a big round. You're not gonna last 8 shots.
This dude did it. She was preggo and he didn't want anything to do with it OR he was a stalker and caught her with someone else. Both scenarios seem equally plausible to me. I will be really surprised if one or the other isn't true.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:39 pm to AUstar
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Hogwash. A grown man doesn't self defend himself from a little college girl by shooting her 8 times. And there's no evidence she came at him armed.
2) She tried to commit suicide.
Unless she's the latest victim of the Clinton Body Count, suicide by firing 8 shots into one's own torso seems nigh impossible. A magazine that holds 8 shots is almost certainly a .45 ACP. That's a big round. You're not gonna last 8 shots
Except they are saying she wasn't shot 8 times.
From the texts released that are allegedly between the two of them, she came of as stalking him.
If she wasn't pregnant, then it's really a case of her stalking him.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:41 pm to AUstar
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A grown man doesn't self defend himself from a little college girl by shooting her 8 times. And there's no evidence she came at him armed.
I agree with you on all accounts but I wanted to point out that the gun was supposedly kept in his truck. They supposedly knew each other for years, so there’s a good chance she knew it was there.
They are drunkenly arguing all night, he picks her up, the continue to argue, the gun is in the glove box. Shite goes tragically bad.
I don’t think there’s a lot of doubt this guy did it. But it could be anything from he planned to pick her up and murder her along with their unborn baby to her grabbing the gun out of the glovebox. Almost everything is purely speculation at this point.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:46 pm to baldona
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baldona
8 times?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:52 pm to QuietTiger
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8 times?
The coroner officially said it wasn’t 8 just multiple and anything else would have to wait for the autopsy.
Outside of her being shot multiple times and found at the lake, and him being arrested everything else that originally came out is pretty much speculation and there has been no proof.
Not saying he isn’t almost definitely guilt just the difference between 20 years and the death penalty is quite a bit.
I’m surprised that no one else on campus has talked to the news. Like whoever was with him before hand, anything more about the pregnancy, etc. Certainly nothing official but I just mean in front of the news. I’m surprised nothing more has come out about why they were together that night.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:55 pm to baldona
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baldona
So, what would be acceptable? 3-4-5-6?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:55 pm to AUstar
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magazine that holds 8 shots is almost certainly a .45 ACP.
I don't think caliber really makes a difference but I'm pretty sure Glock makes a single stack 9mm that carries that many rounds
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:57 pm to baldona
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They are drunkenly arguing all night, he picks her up, the continue to argue, the gun is in the glove box. Shite goes tragically bad.
Possible, but she didn't shoot herself 8 times with it. That I can tell you (to quote Trump).
I can see a drunk girl pulling out the gun and threatening suicide. But how did she end up shot 8 times? It just doesn't make sense. And why would he dump the body? Why not just call police?
And her girlfriends are giving contradictory stories too. One of them said the dude was "really aggressive" and almost made it sound like he stalked her. Another girlfriend said it was the opposite and she was obsessed with him because he would "lead her on". So I think it's fair to say we should ignore the girlfriends.
I think they had an argument over text then decided to meet up. Both were drunk, shite escalated and he killed her. Why? Dunno but he was obviously pissed about something. Either she was gonna break it off and he couldn't handle it or she told him she was preggo and she was going to hold him legally accountable which scared him. Who knows maybe she threatened abortion and he took offense to it. Something along those lines happened. Guaranteed.
I doubt it was pre-planned by him, though. Probably a spur of the moment thing which, by the way, doesn't necessarily rule out premeditation from a legal standpoint.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:00 pm to AUstar
She wasn't shot 8 times. That has been debunked.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:08 pm to Tunica
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She wasn't shot 8 times.
See my above post.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:15 pm to QuietTiger
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So, what would be acceptable? 3-4-5-6?
Well multiple could mean 2 right? I’m not excusing what happened and he appears to be a complete POS by all accounts. I’ve never been in a situation where a gun was pulled, but I’ve been in a drunken argument and I’ve been affected by adrenaline plenty. I don’t think multiple gunshots would be totally unexplainable in a close quarters fight in say the front of a truck.
Eta: but yes I’m guessing you are right and it’s 3+. 8s an odd number to just throw out, so I’m assuming it came from somewhere like the number of wounds she had.
All I’ve said all along is a lot of assumptions are going off of the very early information that was released. Much of which has now been completely questionable or worse debunked. So we have no idea and spitballing with 0 facts known is about as accurate as spitballing from the early info.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:18 pm to baldona
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I don’t think multiple gunshots would be totally unexplainable in a close quarters fight in say the front of a truck.
With a female?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:21 pm to baldona
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baldona
So, it's unacceptable to put your hands on a woman, but shooting her is fine?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:41 pm to magildachunks
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magildachunks
if this Theesfeld kid knew what he was doing he'd fire his incompetent defense team and hire you, since you clearly have this one solved already
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