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Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:39 pm to
She was belligerent and drove off during a police stop. The gun was drawn because who knows if she's pulled one in the meantime as well. He pulls her out and she just flails and kicks him like crazy.

She deserved every bit of that taser.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:44 pm to
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She deserved every bit of that taser.



Shes just lucky she wasnt black
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 7:20 pm to
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Fun fact: what you did (pass stopped car using shoulder) is completely legal in Texas.

As long as you signal the lane change.
Posted by johnnydrama
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 7:29 pm to
Up-voted just for using the term "Ride the Lightning."
Posted by Gorilla Ball
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 7:55 pm to
Really? Geez.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by StupidBinder
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 8:13 pm to
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She was belligerent and drove off during a police stop. The gun was drawn because who knows if she's pulled one in the meantime as well. He pulls her out and she just flails and kicks him like crazy.


Exactly.

The woman was an ornery jackass right from the start. The cop was surprisingly professional.

I’ll admit that he probably didn’t need to taser, but she earned it so why not.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 8:17 pm to
Glad to see cops fighting the true problems of society
Posted by Clockwatcher68
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:51 pm to
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The woman was an ornery jackass right from the start. The cop was surprisingly professional.



Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:27 am to
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She was belligerent and drove off during a police stop. The gun was drawn because who knows if she's pulled one in the meantime as well. He pulls her out and she just flails and kicks him like crazy.

She deserved every bit of that taser.


Once it turns into a chase, who knows what she’s going to do. So the gun isn’t inappropriate.

But even getting to a chase instead of giving her a ticket and walking away seems silly.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:31 am to
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But even getting to a chase instead of giving her a ticket and walking away seems silly.


He tried... Country grandma was being obstinate and drove off.


Dumb people think they will improve the outcome by arguing with the officer and becoming combative.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:50 am to
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Dumb people think they will improve the outcome by arguing with the officer and becoming combative.
Have never understood why people do it. If you think getting pissy with a police officer will do anything but make the situation worse, you're a moron.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:33 pm to
The first time I was ticketed I asked the cop what would happen if I refused to sign it. He replied that I’d be arrested.

I signed the ticket.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:57 pm to
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nobody on here can convince me



Well you're retarded so why waste the effort on you?
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 1:04 pm to
Trump voter trash.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 1:23 pm to
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Glad to see cops fighting the true problems of society
huh? Do you propose zero traffic law enforcement?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 1:27 pm to
Starts in a church parking lot
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12799 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:48 pm to
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He tried... Country grandma was being obstinate and drove off. Dumb people think they will improve the outcome by arguing with the officer and becoming combative.


And whether his judgement or Oklahoma law- that he can’t just inform her of the date and/or drop the ticket in her lap and walk away is silly.

The possible risk of the situation escalating there is surely much worse than the gain of a signature. Especially when we have capability to film a stop and file the ticket and move on without any confrontation. Toss a suspension on her license if she no shows court before a chase and use of force.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53591 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:33 pm to
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And whether his judgement or Oklahoma law- that he can’t just inform her of the date and/or drop the ticket in her lap and walk away is silly.



As I understand it is that the signature acknowledges the ticket (not necessarily guilt) and the agreement of the person to resolve it either by paying the fine or showing up in court to argue.

Failure to sign means you intend to be a “fugitive” and ignore it, so you get detained until you sign or get in front of a judge.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12799 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 12:05 pm to
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As I understand it is that the signature acknowledges the ticket (not necessarily guilt) and the agreement of the person to resolve it either by paying the fine or showing up in court to argue.

Failure to sign means you intend to be a “fugitive” and ignore it, so you get detained until you sign or get in front of a judge


Various states handle it differently, I believe... but even as policy... can you explain the net gain to society at this point?

With dash/body cams we have the stops fully documented. Turn in the ticket, set up the court date, and suspend the license if they no show.

It seems a bit much to cuff and drag them in over signing an $80 ticket, no? Like 100% of the variables in the outcome there are negative as it just escalated tensions and volatility. Surely we can rework that policy to be lower risk and maintain relatively similar outcomes overall. Idiot drivers are going to happen occasionally and I’m not excusing that, I just don’t see the upside in the officer having to engage the situation here.

I’d prefer not to have a chase, guns drawn and a tasing over trying to secure a completely meaningless signature from a belligerent person

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