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re: Oklahoma City Bombing was 23 years ago today
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:25 am to Sao
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:25 am to Sao
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Yes, little girl died. That pic brings back some shock and onions. That was really my first "9/11" moment I guess. 19 other kids gone as well.
It was almost like they weren't aware of the daycare. Nochols seemed shocked, but cold blooded McVeigh just said "collateral damage".
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:27 am to Darth_Vader
This should be a lesson to all people that banning guns would not ever end violence. Terrible people will always exist and carry out evil when they want to one way or another.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:33 am to JBeam
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Pure dumb luck that McVeigh was already captured when his identity was linked to OKC.
A buddy of mine was the guy that took McVeigh into federal custody. A OK Highway Patrol Trooper had stopped McVeigh for driving a car without a license plate. When the officer got him out of the car, he had a pistol in a shoulder holster on under his jacket. The officer arrested him and a series of mishaps with the court kept him overnight or he would have been bailed out long before they figured out who he was.
My buddy was at the Command Post and was told to go up there along with some FBI agents. He told me the second he laid eyes on McVeigh he knew it was him.
Funny part of the story was that the FBI Agent with him was trying to get a US Attorney on the phone to ask how to arrest McVeigh. The rookie agent was a white collar crime guy who was used to arresting people by calling their lawyer and having them surrender at the court house. My buddy said "watch this" and walked in the holding cell and said "you are under arrest" and walked back out and said "there you go."
One of the guys in his office, who I also knew, was in the building when the bomb went off and part of his office floor collapsed. He had to bust through a couple of sheetrock walls to get to an exterior stairwell to get out of the building. He said he was certain the building was going to come down before he got out.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:43 am to Alt26
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The week of April 14-20 seems to have an inordinate amount of tragedies:
4-19-1775 First shots at Lexington
4-19-1933 FDR announces US will abandon the gold standard
4-20 Hitler's birthday
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:57 am to Sao
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Yes, little girl died. That pic brings back some shock and onions. That was really my first "9/11" moment I guess. 19 other kids gone as well.
Yeah, read on Wikipedia where McVey apparently said that he was unaware of the childcare center being in the building and might have switched targets had he known. Prosecution said he had scouted the building and had to have known. It's just sad, no matter what. Those kids did nothing wrong. Nobody in that building did, for that matter. But man, when it takes kids.....it's hard for me.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:00 am to FightinTigersDammit
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4-20 Hitler's birthday
Which spawns some other things like Columbine.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:02 am to FightinTigersDammit
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4-20 Hitler's birthday
Crap. That just ruined that day for me.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:05 am to Darth_Vader
Remember that day well, sadly:
I was running late as hell for an MBIO Class in Dodson hall when I heard the news on the radio.
Can still remember the look on the ~100 classmates' face when I said "A terrorist blew up a big building in Oklahoma City."
They thought I was joking and some were confused.
23 yrs later, people unfortunately would NOT be so shocked or confused by something so tragic.
ETA: Oddly enough I can remember driving on I-10 near Acadian when the news broke of that piece of shite's execution.
I was running late as hell for an MBIO Class in Dodson hall when I heard the news on the radio.
Can still remember the look on the ~100 classmates' face when I said "A terrorist blew up a big building in Oklahoma City."
They thought I was joking and some were confused.
23 yrs later, people unfortunately would NOT be so shocked or confused by something so tragic.
ETA: Oddly enough I can remember driving on I-10 near Acadian when the news broke of that piece of shite's execution.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:14 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:06 am to Darth_Vader
Damn that last picture. I was fairly young at that time. So young I don't think it occurred to me the significance of what happened as opposed to 9/11 when I was 19.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:54 am to FightinTigersDammit
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4-19-1775 First shots at Lexington
4-19-1933 FDR announces US will abandon the gold standard
4-20 Hitler's birthday
4-14-1865 Lincoln assassinated
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:58 am to BillBrosky
4/16/47 Texas City
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:00 pm to BillBrosky
4/18/1906 SF Earthquake
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:01 pm to BillBrosky
4/18/1983 Beirut Embassy
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:02 pm to BillBrosky
4/20/2010 Deepwater Horizons
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:02 pm to Darth_Vader
Such an incredible terrorist attack that I find it hard to believe it was an American citizen that did it.
IMO, McVeigh is inline with terrorists like Atta of 9/11/01. Arguably worse, since Atta, etc. was probably "brainwashed" into hating America, whereas McVeigh, a former military personnel, created his own hatred all on his own.
IMO, McVeigh is inline with terrorists like Atta of 9/11/01. Arguably worse, since Atta, etc. was probably "brainwashed" into hating America, whereas McVeigh, a former military personnel, created his own hatred all on his own.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:05 pm to East Coast Band
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whereas McVeigh, a former military personnel, created his own hatred all on his own.
The government at the time helped forment that sentiment with right wingers. Things like Ruby Ridge and Waco really pushed the right wing against the government hard back then, add a crazy person to the mix and you have a recipe for OKC.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:16 pm to Dam Guide
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The government at the time helped forment that sentiment with right wingers. Things like Ruby Ridge and Waco
Regardless of your opinions of the US government, it shouldn't ever lead one to anything remotely what McVeigh did.
He fricking killed 168 adults and children and would have been fine with 10 times that amount. How many survived that were in the Murrah building? In the surrounding buildings?
He had no purpose other than to kill. he had no ulterior motive,like Atta and gang had: some kind of Islam thing.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:26 pm to Darth_Vader
I lived in Tokyo and was on a business trip to Taipei at the time. It was almost impossible to get information about what happened. The only English channel at my hotel was a CNN channel that looped a 30-minute news segment. Hard to remember a time when you couldn't hop on your phone and get up to date coverage of any event. We have come a long way.
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