re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

So you can't draft or do a little rubbin'?

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IT CAN"T HAPPEN



Implies that you are 100% positive therefor you were screaming it to the mass'


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isn't this correct?



Leads me to believe you have no freaking clue what you're talking about when it comes to this topic.

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Correct! I mean 'it can't happen" IF I understand how the anti collision system works.

The "isn't this correct" part is in reference to IF the system works if another plane has the ability to turn its sytem off and not show up on the plane it is following.

I'm inclined to go with "it can't happen" part if the system picks up other objects in the sky no matter what they are....

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JAXTiger16

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Read the post just above yours and see that it is plausible.

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Dumbest theory on this thread. There's no way for an aircraft to get so close to mask themselves on radar.

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But couldn't it take the place of a similar plane? In theory?

Good question asked earlier. I had never thought about that before.

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Please drop this!!! Dumbest theory on this thread. There's no way for an aircraft to get so close to mask themselves on radar.

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The Israelis did this during the Entebbe raid. Not saying it happened here, and maybe radar technology has improved to the point where it's not possible now, but it has happened before.

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quote: JAXTiger16 Read the post just above yours and see that it is plausible.

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That has nothing to do with my post.. That explains TCAS which means a plane wouldn't likely realized he was being shadowed.

But a person on the ground operating a radar would be able to see two air contacts separate from each other, therefore nearly impossible to get close enough to create one contact and slip through.

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The Israelis did this during the Entebbe raid. Not saying it happened here, and maybe radar technology has improved to the point where it's not possible now, but it has happened before

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Also in the movie Topgun...those MIG-28s on radar appeared as 1 when there were 2 and then later on appeared 2 when there were 5....just sayin

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After the protracted ground-controlled interception, the three Su-15 fighters (from nearby Dolinsk-Sokol airbase) and the MiG-23[33] (from Smirnykh Air Base) managed to make visual contact with the Boeing. The pilot of the lead Su-15 fighter fired warning shots, but recalled later in 1991:[34]
I fired four bursts, more than 200 rounds. For all the good it did. After all, I was loaded with armor piercing shells, not incendiary shells. It's doubtful whether anyone could see them...

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Interesting. So the KAL had no idea the Migs were even there.

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At this point, KAL 007 contacted Tokyo air traffic control requesting clearance to ascend to a higher flight level for reasons of fuel economy; the request was granted, so the Boeing started to climb, gradually slowing as it exchanged speed for altitude. The decrease in speed caused the pursuing fighter to overshoot the Boeing, an action that was interpreted by the Soviet pilot as an evasive maneuver. The order to shoot KAL 007 down was given as it was about to leave Soviet airspace for the second time. At around 18:26 UTC, under pressure from General Anatoly Kornukov, Commander of Sokol Air Bases on Sakhalin, and ground controllers not to let the aircraft escape into international airspace, the lead fighter was able to move back into a position where it could fire two Kaliningrad K-8 air-to-air missiles at the plane

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I heard of it but never read about it.

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In a 1991 interview with Izvestia, Major Genadi Osipovich, pilot of the Su-15 interceptor that shot the 747 down, spoke about his recollections of the events leading up to the shootdown. Contrary to official Soviet statements at the time, he recalled telling ground controllers that there were "blinking lights".[36] He continued, saying that "I saw two rows of windows and knew that this was a Boeing. I knew this was a civilian plane. But for me this meant nothing. It is easy to turn a civilian type of plane into one for military use..."[36] He furthermore did not provide a detailed description of the aircraft to his ground controllers: "I did not tell the ground that it was a Boeing-type plane; they did not ask me.

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OH. Like you know. Errbody has to be an expert at everything, don't they.

Obviously, I am kidding. On a serious note, I thought that the radar beams or whatever you call them would bounce off of the first airplane back to the radar station and the rear airplane, if close enough, would kind of disappear. Kind of like looking directly at a tree. If there's a tree behind it, you can't necessarily see it. But then, I analyze budgets, not radar transmissions.

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Not claiming to be an expert, but I have over 2000 flight hours and 4000 sim hours operating a radar. So I'm knowledgable. Your theory of radar is correct, but the whole theory of the aircraft masking itself into china is not plausible.

The reason is, maybe the plane can mask itself from one ground radar, which is still very unlikely bc how is the plane going to know where the radar antennas are located to be in the right spot? Also, there are numerous (thousands) radars set up through china. What happens once they past the antenna? They can't hide anymore. Plus China is way too smart to let a 777 slip in like that. You have to give them some credit.

Sorry, my rant is over now and I hope that makes sense and kills that theory.

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The reason is, maybe the plane can mask itself from one ground radar, which is still very unlikely bc how is the plane going to know where the radar antennas are located to be in the right spot? Also, there are multiple radars set up through china. What happens once they past the antenna? They can't hide anymore. Plus China is way too smart to let a 777 slip in like that. You have to give them some credit.

Sorry, my rant is over now and I hope that makes sense and kills that theory.

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China also has first nation status.

But couldn't a flight maybe slip by the radar of a lessor nation? Say Bangladesh? Pakistan?