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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:04 am to
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:04 am to
They were quoting this article from before it's news. So it's debatable but interesting.

LINK
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:06 am to
Is it possible to turn off a flight data recorder (black box) by a pilot during a flight?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:07 am to
quote:

quote:
"It is conceivable that the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 plane is 'cloaked', hiding with high-tech electronic warfare weaponry that exists and is used," according to the site.


shite just got real.
Posted by MDcajuntiger
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:09 am to
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LINK quote: What is source for this info?


Interesting comments and links (MSN Money) at the bottom of that article...

Not ready for that much tin foil yet, but it is interesting. It does present an interesting viewpoint. The focus may be on the assets on the plane more than the plane itself...
Posted by JAXTiger16
TBD
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Is it possible to turn off a flight data recorder (black box) by a pilot during a flight?


Negative, there may be a way to trip a circuit breaker though
This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 8:12 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:12 am to
It's baffling. I still don't get how the search area is so big and how the last known radar image of it can't be pinpointed ( at least that's how I understood it last night). Plane was said to have 7-8 hours worth of fuel and was last detected 6-7 hours after takeoff tells me they only had 2 hours max flying time left.

Unless they had more fuel at takeoff that was originally reported. Someone in the fuel crew in on the plot?
Posted by jimlsu1
Ellicott City, Md
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:17 am to
So is that a Yes or a No?
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:17 am to
Maybe tinfoil time, but I caught this from the comments of that article:

quote:

Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved by the Patent Office.

4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX.

Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders.

Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%).
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%).
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%).
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%).
Freescale Semiconductor (20%).

If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased if not disputed in a will.

If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent.

That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.

Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone

(what an interesting name for a company) who owns Freescale.

Here is your motive for the missing plane. As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.
Posted by JAXTiger16
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:22 am to
quote:

So is that a Yes or a No?


Technically yes, by tripping the circuit breaker it takes power away from the box.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:26 am to
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Here is your motive for the missing plane. As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.


Seems way to complex to be the reason. Why not just murder them?
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:28 am to
quote:

shite just got real.
welcome to four days ago
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:34 am to
you guys should update the original post
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:38 am to
This is, by far, the most fascinating thread I've read on TD or SECR since I joined. Thanks
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:42 am to
The following is the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak's statement which was read out at a press conference March 15th.

"Seven days ago Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared. We realise this is an excruciating time for the families of those on board. No words can describe the pain they must be going through. Our thoughts and our prayers are with them.


I have been appraised of the on-going search operation round the clock. At the beginning of the operation, I ordered the search area to be broadened; I instructed the Malaysian authorities to share all relevant information freely and transparently with the wider investigation team; and I requested that our friends and allies join the operation. As of today, 14 countries, 43 ships and 58 aircraft are involved in the search. I wish to thank all the governments for their help at such a crucial time.

Since day one, the Malaysian authorities have worked hand-in-hand with our international partners – including neighbouring countries, the aviation authorities and a multinational search force – many of whom have been here on the ground since Sunday.

We have shared information in real time with authorities who have the necessary experience to interpret the data. We have been working nonstop to assist the investigation. And we have put our national security second to the search for the missing plane.

It is widely understood that this has been a situation without precedent.

We have conducted search operations over land, in the South China Sea, the Straits of Malacca, the Andaman Sea and the Indian Ocean. At every stage, we acted on the basis of verified information, and we followed every credible lead. Sometimes these leads have led nowhere.

There has been intense speculation. We understand the desperate need for information on behalf of the families and those watching around the world. But we have a responsibility to the investigation and the families to only release information that has been corroborated. And our primary motivation has always been to find the plane.

In the first phase of the search operation, we searched near MH370’s last known position, in the South China Sea. At the same time, it was brought to our attention by the Royal Malaysian Air Force that, based on their primary radar, an aircraft – the identity of which could not be confirmed – made a turn back. The primary radar data showed the aircraft proceeding on a flight path which took it to an area north of the Straits of Malacca.

Given this credible data, which was subsequently corroborated with the relevant international authorities, we expanded the area of search to include the Straits of Malacca and, later, to the Andaman Sea.

Early this morning I was briefed by the investigation team – which includes the FAA, NTSB, the AAIB, the Malaysian authorities and the Acting Minister of Transport – on new information that sheds further light on what happened to MH370.

Based on new satellite information, we can say with a high degree of certainty that the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was disabled just before the aircraft reached the East coast of peninsular Malaysia. Shortly afterwards, near the border between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic control, the aircraft’s transponder was switched off.

From this point onwards, the Royal Malaysian Air Force primary radar showed that an aircraft which was believed – but not confirmed – to be MH370 did indeed turn back. It then flew in a westerly direction back over peninsular Malaysia before turning northwest. Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane.

Today, based on raw satellite data that was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was flight MH370. After much forensic work and deliberation, the FAA, NTSB, AAIB and the Malaysian authorities, working separately on the same data, concur.

According to the new data, the last confirmed communication between the plane and the satellite was at 8:11AM Malaysian time on Saturday 8th March. The investigations team is making further calculations which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact. This will help us to refine the search.
Due to the type of satellite data, we are unable to confirm the precise location of the plane when it last made contact with the satellite.

However, based on this new data, the aviation authorities of Malaysia and their international counterparts have determined that the plane’s last communication with the satellite was in one of two possible corridors: a northern corridor stretching approximately from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to northern Thailand, or a southern corridor stretching approximately from Indonesia to the southern Indian ocean. The investigation team is working to further refine the information.

In view of this latest development the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board. Despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear: we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate from its original flight path.

This new satellite information has a significant impact on the nature and scope of the search operation. We are ending our operations in the South China Sea and reassessing the redeployment of our assets. We are working with the relevant countries to request all information relevant to the search, including radar data.

As the two new corridors involve many countries, the relevant foreign embassies have been invited to a briefing on the new information today by the Malaysian Foreign Ministry and the technical experts. I have also instructed the Foreign Ministry to provide a full briefing to foreign governments which had passengers on the plane. This morning, Malaysia Airlines has been informing the families of the passengers and crew of these new developments.

Clearly, the search for MH370 has entered a new phase. Over the last seven days, we have followed every lead and looked into every possibility. For the families and friends of those involved, we hope this new information brings us one step closer to finding the plane.

Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:42 am to
Agreed. It's like crack. I can't get enough
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:42 am to
Chicken didn't hijack the plane...or did he???
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:47 am to
My grandfather has patents through ibm, Motorola and free scale. I think for his biggest discovery. (The material used in Skylab's wings) he got $25k
Free scale was the most recent, I think he is still with them as a subcontractor. I know though that the patent payouts are not big though when your patent is owned by a corporation.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:51 am to
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Agreed. It's like crack. I can't get enough


Same...I feel terrible knowing that a ton of people are possibly dead because of whats going on, but Im mystified by whats going on with this plane.

This is wild. I guarantee that plane landed somewhere
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone


And the Carlyle Group. The biggest military contractor for the us.
Posted by Anfield Road
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Member since May 2012
1948 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 8:52 am to
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I was unaware that a pilot could depressurize whenever he wanted no matter what height they were at..


Helios Flight 522 crashed because the pilots/maintenance crew forgot to switch on the pressurization button. Everyone on the plane eventually passed out (including the pilots), and the plane kept on flying on autopilot until it ran out of fuel.
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