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re: Officer who shot Philando Castile has been acquitted of all charges (link and orig vid)
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:50 pm to Willie Stroker
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:50 pm to Willie Stroker
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risk their lives
This narrative needs to be put to rest as well. The average LEO never once during their careers has their life put in real danger. And if you believe so, then that is another reason why they should be required to be prior commissioned military officers.
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:51 pm to SamuelClemens
Their lives are more at risk than yours is.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:53 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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Don't you think that is a bit much?
No do not in the least feel it is too much. These things; teachers, LEOs, firefighters, medical professionals should all be high achievers and coveted as well as nationally respected professions that are highly paid.
This itself can change a lot of society's crumbling morals and decaying ethics. The church and religion isn't picking up the slack and parents aren't teaching their children to grow up at all, let alone grow up with a sense of respect for their fellow man and dignity empathy and general kindness towards their fellow man.
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:53 pm to SamuelClemens
So a typical officer of the law conducts traffic stops daily. How is there life not on the line. Other vehicles drive near them don't they? You think serving a felony warrant for weapons and or drugs is not dangerous? How safe would feel responding to a fight in north Baton Rouge or south side of Chicago?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:55 pm to SamuelClemens
Again then who would cover the cost of higher education for them? What would you purpose has a salary and retirement plan? Many costly unknowns.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:56 pm to SamuelClemens
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risk their lives
This narrative needs to be put to rest as well.
No.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:56 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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is not dangerous?
Many people work dangerous jobs everyday. The plant workers could all be blown up and any second of each and every day they are in the plant.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:58 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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Many costly unknowns.
The long term positive changes this would bring on society would more than pay off over a few generations.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:01 pm to SamuelClemens
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Many people work dangerous jobs everyday. The plant workers could all be blown up and any second of each and every day they are in the plant.
They rely in each other for the equipment and plant to run safely. Yes a malfunction could occur. But can a LEO prevent a drunk driver hitting them? Or a person who is high and pulls a gun and knows this there last chance of freedom, so they shoot at Leo's? Can they be prevented.
The traffic stop is a unknown most of the time. You pull over a vehicle, you just hope it's a nice person. But sometimes it's not.
Yes there are dangerous jobs. But to say LEO's don't put there lives on the line is ignorant. Tell that to the families of the deputies killed in Baton Rouge. Or the first responders to the twin towers who have cancer because of helping those in need.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:06 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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Yes there are dangerous jobs. But to say LEO's don't put there lives on the line is ignorant. Tell that to the families of the deputies killed in Baton Rouge. Or the first responders to the twin towers who have cancer because of helping those in need.
People who try to say LEOs don't deserve accolades for their service are usually the same folks who chafe at any overt thanks to military servicemembers. Just reeks of an axe to grind tbh.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:07 pm to Willie Stroker
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What in your opinion should be the minimum qualification to be a LEO?
Well first I'm not qualified to come up with the qualifications.
But I believe that we should be seeking out more intelligent individuals instead of individuals of average to below average intelligence and denying smart people.
Without a doubt I think there should be some type of psychiatric evaluations involved. Not just before you are hired, but perhaps some type of annual mental health check up would be good.
And a 4 year degree like SamuelClemens said may be much, but there definitely needs to be more extensive training and classes involved. Maybe a 2 yr community college type path. Criminal Justice classes, as well as psychology and sociology classes should be the focus of a course load like that.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:10 pm to SamuelClemens
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The long term positive changes this would bring on society would more than pay off over a few generations.
What do you purpose as pay? And who would cover the education costs? I have no issue with LEO being educated. Many departments require more then just a hs diploma.
Madison WI police
Minneapolis Police
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:11 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I agree typically they dislike both. Which is a shame.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:15 pm to BowlJackson
I think you are right about mental and psych evaluations. Nothing wrong with asking departments to follow through with that.
Well a lot of departments only require a hs diploma. Many of the candidates will not be hired without some type of advanced education. Contact most agencies recruiters and they will tell you the same.
Maybe contact your local law enforcement agency and ask if you can sit on the interview panel. Many departments are implementing citizens or community members who are not LEO's to be part of the interview process.
Well a lot of departments only require a hs diploma. Many of the candidates will not be hired without some type of advanced education. Contact most agencies recruiters and they will tell you the same.
Maybe contact your local law enforcement agency and ask if you can sit on the interview panel. Many departments are implementing citizens or community members who are not LEO's to be part of the interview process.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:19 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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Maybe contact your local law enforcement agency and ask if you can sit on the interview panel. Many departments are implementing citizens or community members who are not LEO's to be part of the interview process.
That's actually a really good thing to know
hopefully the right type of people are taking advantage of thatPosted on 6/17/17 at 7:21 pm to BowlJackson
It seems to work. I know if I was a citizen and cared about my community I would want to participate. It also brings something new to the table. Admin for departments might only look for certain qualities, but a normal citizen will and can shed light on different qualities the community want and should expect.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:23 pm to BowlJackson
Bowl as well maybe do a ride along with a department. I would highly encourage recommend it. Heck it might make you want to volunteer with the community with programs set up by Law enforcement.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:25 pm to SamuelClemens
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I believe if LEOs are going to be equipped with military gear, prior military service should be mandatory for one
So prior training on how to kill people and break things will help LEOs act with better judgment in shoot/don't shoot scenarios?
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believe the job should be one of high pay (as should fire fighters, teachers, emergency services to name a few). So higher quality young adults will see this as a legit career and become more respected. (And the current LEOs cannot be "grandfathered" into the requirements).
I believe the LEOs should live in the communities they protect and serve.
So the highest paid people in high crime neighborhoods will be LEOs? The community would love police even more, wouldn't they?
Assuming that nothing goes wrong with this arrangement, why would someone choose a profession that requires them to raise their families in high crime communities?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:25 pm to xxGEAUXxx
so the jury had a black woman and a black man on it, and it was unanimous to acquit?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:28 pm to Willie Stroker
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So prior training on how to kill people and break things will help LEOs act with better judgment in shoot/don't shoot scenarios?
Not every military member are trained killers. Yes they are taught that but it doesn't make them all savages. The things they are trained in would be beneficial.
But I agree living in the community isn't the greatest idea. I couldn't imagine living in north Baton Rouge or south side Chicago as a LEO.
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