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re: NYPD - possible Police strike on July 4 In Response To City's Anti-Police Sentiment

Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:55 pm to
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Like claiming Alton sterling and mike brown for the BLM cause? Yeah I’ve said it’s stupid multiple times because there are plenty of legit examples to use.


Why aren't those examples talked about and rallied behind? Why do we never hear about them from the media and BLM types?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:56 pm to
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I always hated the "Punish-the-whole-class-for-the-actions-of-one-shithead-student" teachers. That's just lazy.


When the whole class stands in front of the shithead student and won’t let you get through, the whole class is the shithead student.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:56 pm to
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Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:57 pm to
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When the whole class stands in front of the shithead student and won’t let you get through, the whole class is the shithead student.

Very lazy again. I guess it is just easier to generalize.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:57 pm to
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bababooey


Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:58 pm to
Ah. NYT op ed certainly ends this discussion.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:59 pm to
How is it lazy? If people are actively protecting bad cops, why should they be immune from backlash?
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:00 pm to
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I’m not being a hypocrite, you’re just not as smart as you think you are with this “gotcha” attempt.


What in the actual frick? The mental gymnastics here are astounding.

All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t stereotype all police officers due to the actions of a few, regardless of the bullshite reasons that you want to use.

And I’m far from a boot locker.

Just because you say you aren’t a hypocrite, doesn’t mean it’s true
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:00 pm to
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How is it lazy? If people are actively protecting bad cops, why should they be immune from backlash?

So, you can definitively say that every single cop in every single PD across the country is actively working to cover up the actions of every single bad cop?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:00 pm to
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I said that because he’s acting like the cops are in active war zones burning down right now every single night.
No one knows what the hell the street idiots will do next. But we damn sure know what they're capable of doing, we saw it live. What's done is done, it won't be forgotten.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:02 pm to
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All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t stereotype all police officers due to the actions of a few, regardless of the bullshite reasons that you want to use.

Nope. You MUST stereotype ALL officers. BUT, you cannot, under any circumstances, stereotype any other group of people for any other reason.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:03 pm to
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So, you can definitively say that every single cop in every single PD across the country is actively working to cover up the actions of every single bad cop?


No and I didn’t try to.

I said if a good cop is covering for a bad one, he isn’t a good cop.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:04 pm to
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Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:05 pm to
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What in the actual frick? The mental gymnastics here are astounding.



My posts have been straightforward. I don’t know why you’re having so much trouble with them.

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All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t stereotype all police officers due to the actions of a few, regardless of the bullshite reasons that you want to use.


What I said: there are no good cops if the good cops are covering for the bad cops
What you wanted to hear and have since been arguing against: all cops are bad

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Just because you say you aren’t a hypocrite, doesn’t mean it’s true


I’m beginning to think you don’t know what this word means. Or in your eagerness to call me out here, you’ve completely lost your ability to comprehend what you’ve read and think critically.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:08 pm to
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I said if a good cop is covering for a bad one, he isn’t a good cop.

In this thread, and many others, you have implied that there are no good cops.

If you didn't blatantly say it, you said something like if there is one bad cop, there are no good cops. Now, this is nothing new for you, but it is a very lazy way to attempt to debate.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:10 pm to
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No one knows what the hell the street idiots will do next. But we damn sure know what they're capable of doing, we saw it live. What's done is done, it won't be forgotten


And I have no disagreement with this.

And I really have no issues with cops walking off as long as they fully quit their jobs. I do have a problem with anyone if they don’t quit because then they’re just walking away from their sworn duty to enforce the law.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:12 pm to
Did you not just make an argument that’s it’s okay to stereotype one group of people, but not another?

How is that not hypocritical?

And you can stop with the passive aggressive insults.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:14 pm to
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In this thread, and many others, you have implied that there are no good cops.


Not in this thread and feel free to link the “many others” because this is I believe the first time I’ve spoken on this topic in a long time.

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If you didn't blatantly say it, you said something like if there is one bad cop, there are no good cops


I didn’t remotely say that. Try to get people’s words right if you want to argue against them.

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but it is a very lazy way to attempt to debate.




Rich since I’m the only one actually formulating words and opinions while everyone like you is hurling insults.

I’ve articulated my position several times. Feel free to read back over it without a emotional “gotta put him in his place” state of mind.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:16 pm to
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Did you not just make an argument that’s it’s okay to stereotype one group of people, but not another?


No, I didn’t. Even if I did stereotype all cops as bad, I never said it was or wasn’t okay to stereotype certain groups. Feel free to link where you think I said that.

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And you can stop with the passive aggressive insults.


They aren’t insults. They’re legitimate concerns because you keep completely misstating my very clear positions and writing me off as some hypocrite trying to worm my way out of it.

Now instead of an actual discussion like I was intending, this is a sideshow of weird gotcha attempts. No room for discussion here.
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 4:17 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:16 pm to
I haven't hurled one insult other than to point out that you're being lazy. You haven't actually presented any cases or evidence to back up any of your claims. You just make the same claims over and over again just to have another poster call you out.
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