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NY post new article on Oumuamua, and why this harvard astronomer is so sure it is alien

Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:44 pm
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In his upcoming book, “Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth” (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt), out Jan. 26, the professor lays out a compelling case for why an object that recently wandered into our solar system was not just another rock but actually a piece of alien technology.

The object in question traveled toward our solar system from the direction of Vega, a nearby star 25 light-years away, and intercepted our solar system’s orbital plane on Sept. 6, 2017.

On Sept. 9, its trajectory brought it closest to the sun. At the end of September, it blasted at about 58,900 miles per hour past Venus’ orbital distance, and then, on Oct. 7, it shot past Earth’s before “moving swiftly toward the constellation Pegasus and the blackness beyond,” Loeb writes in the book.


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The space object was dubbed ‘Oumuamua (pronounced “oh moo ah moo ah”), which is Hawaiian for — roughly — “scout.”

As space travelers go, it was relatively small at just about 100 yards long, but it was a big deal in the scientific community.


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it was the first interstellar object ever detected inside our solar system. Judging from the object’s trajectory, astronomers concluded it was not bound by the sun’s gravity — which suggested it was just traveling through.

No crisp photos could be taken, but astronomers were able to train their telescopes on the object for 11 days, collecting reams of other data.

At first, scientists thought it was an ordinary comet. But Loeb said that assumption ran the risk of allowing “the familiar to define what we might discover.”

“What would happen if a caveman saw a cellphone?” he asked. “He’s seen rocks all his life, and he would have thought it was just a shiny rock.”

Loeb soon opened his mind to another possibility: It was not a comet but discarded tech from an alien civilization.



KEY PART OF ARTICLE- 3 REASONS LOEB THINKS IT IS A CREATED OBJECT

First were ‘Oumuamua’s dimensions.

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Astronomers looked at the way the object reflected sunlight. Its brightness varied tenfold every eight hours, suggesting that was the amount of time it took for it to complete a full rotation.

Scientists concluded the object was at least five to ten times longer than it was wide — sort of like the shape of a cigar.

No naturally occurring space body we’ve ever seen has looked like it — or even close.




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What’s more, ‘Oumuamua was unusually bright. It was at least “ten times more reflective than typical solar system [stony] asteroids or comets,” the author writes.

He likens its surface to that of shiny metal.



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But the anomaly that really pushed Loeb toward his E.T. hypothesis was the way ‘Oumuamua moved.

“The excess push away from the sun — that was the thing that broke the camel’s back,” he said.

Using physics, scientists can calculate the exact path an object should take and what speed it should travel due to the gravitational force exerted by the sun. The sun’s pull will speed up an object massively as it gets closer, then kick it out the other side, only for the object to slow considerably as it gets farther away.

But ‘Oumuamua didn’t follow this calculated trajectory. The object, in fact, accelerated “slightly, but to a highly statistically significant extent,” Loeb writes, as it moved away from the sun.

In other words, it was clearly being pushed by a force besides the sun’s gravity alone.



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Loeb believes it is being propelled by a "light sail"

Some 400 years ago, astronomer Johannes Kepler observed comet tails blowing in what looked like a solar breeze and wondered if that same force could propel rocket ships through space like the wind pushes boats through water.

It was a smart idea that scientists now use to develop light sails for probes. Thin, reflective sheeting is unfurled in space to capture the particles streaming off the sun, propelling a ship at great speeds through the empty void. Alternatively, powerful lasers from earth could be aimed at the sail to make it go even faster.

Loeb, who is involved in a light-sail project to send a tiny, unmanned craft to a nearby star, said if we earthlings have thought of this idea, then why couldn’t aliens?




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I've posted about this before, and this harvard astronomer and many others keep on pounding the drums that this thing could be the real deal.

Crazy to think about.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:46 pm to
Didn't read but


Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Eta: damnit upgrayedd
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 7:47 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:46 pm to
If aliens are so smart, then why did they shape that craft to look like doo doo?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:47 pm to
2 aliens, 1 ship
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:52 pm to
It was absolutely not just a piece of random rock. We’ve sent out probes so why couldn’t have alien civilizations? Totally plausible but we will never know.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:56 pm to
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Loeb, who is involved in a light-sail project to send a tiny, unmanned craft to a nearby star, said if we earthlings have thought of this idea, then why couldn’t aliens?

Or...why couldn’t it be naturally occuring?
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:59 pm to
It’s exciting, but it’s gone. There is no way to test these hypotheses.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:02 pm to
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If aliens are so smart, then why did they shape that craft to look like doo doo?

Because it is alien shite, we compact it and shoot it into space for sport
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:03 pm to
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Scientists concluded the object was at least five to ten times longer than it was wide — sort of like the shape of a cigar.


NASA caught it on radar...

Posted by TigerVespamon
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by Emteein
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:10 pm to
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No crisp photos could be taken, but astronomers were able to train their telescopes on the object for 11 days, collecting reams of other data.


I’m calling bullshite because of this statement right here.

You mean to tell me they tracked this thing for 11 fricking days and couldn’t get one clear picture, with all the fricking telescopes, satellites, international space station, etc and they couldn’t get one goddamn clear picture.

Bull fricking shite.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:14 pm to
they did get a picture. read article

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:18 pm to
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If aliens are so smart, then why did they shape that craft to look like doo doo?
One of my favorite things about properly done science fiction is when they accept that spaceships do not need aerodynamic designs unless they ever need to enter an atmosphere.

The Expanse has ships that look like skyscrapers.

The Legacy of the Aldenata series had ships that were designed like dodecahedrons.

There are infinite possibilities.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 8:42 pm
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:18 pm to
If it’s too far away for a camera, then yes. Pretty simple concept.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:20 pm to
dr. scruffy, thoughts on oumuamua?
Posted by Emteein
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:20 pm to
Did you read my post? Clear picture
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:20 pm to
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If aliens are so smart, then why did they shape that craft to look like doo doo?


Because toilet humor is universal.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:24 pm to
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dr. scruffy, thoughts on oumuamua?


It very well could be, but we will never be permitted a straight and truthful answer.
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