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re: NSFW- Road rage, leads to a deadly shooting.

Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10743 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:14 pm to
That went from hell yea self defense to manslaughter with the quickness.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:15 pm to
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Those last few shots are gonna be a problem for that dude.


No it's not. That's south of the border somewhere.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14082 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:47 pm to
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2 sides to this.

If you get out your vehicle with a bat and run up on another driver and get smoked, that’s your own dang fault. You earned getting shot.

However, after the guy takes off running and then you walk up to the guy and execute him, well that just took it from self defense to murder.

Something very similar happen here where I live. Dude was dating another dude's recent ex. She had things of the ex. The girl tells him to come to the new BF house to get them. She takes the stuff to his truck. He never gets out. Ex leaves, new BF doesn't like it. Follows him down the road until he stops. Boyfriend gets out of his vehicle, with a hammer. As he walks up, he hits the back fender with it as walking to the driver side. When he gets to the window, hammer in hand, he meets Mr. 9mm. Jury ends ups saying not guilty. The chick that started this whole shite was pregnant with the dead BF's baby. She ends up getting a full side tattoo that memorializes the dead BF.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54755 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:56 pm to
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Well shet, I thought titties would be involved.


Moobs were involved
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14082 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:12 pm to
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That double tap is going to be a legal problem.

Maybe he still considered him a threat. Isn't that how police are trained? Shoot until there is no longer a threat?
Posted by BlueRunner
Member since Nov 2022
754 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:38 am to
Couldn't the guy with the gun claim that it was self defense and he thought the dude with the bat was on the ground trying to call his gang members to come finish him off?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19080 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:42 am to
Yeah get your affairs in order you about to go to prison
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6170 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:56 am to
Well, one thing's for sure. That fat dude won't be doing that anymore.

Not saying the execution style shots to the back were ok, but he messed with the wrong man.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19050 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:19 am to
The only conclusion I draw at this point is that the guy with the bat won’t be threatening anyone else.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46187 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:28 am to
That's not just road rage, that's road rage vs. a hitman. The way that dude stood over the other guy, he's done that before.

The way he shot the guy, then walked and stood over him and aimed straight for the head and shot more - you don't just do that shite your first time killing someone in a road rage incident, with witnesses all over, at that.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 7:31 am
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
573 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:31 am to
Well, that was his last at bat.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24484 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:37 am to
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Yeah get your affairs in order you about to go to prison




If so, then the law is fricked up.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:46 am to
When you run up on someone with a baseball bat in striking position, every bad thing that happens after that is on YOU.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:51 am to
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That witness was like, "hellnaw" Lol


His reaction tells you a lot about that neighborhood
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41248 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:55 am to
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when is the serious threat actually stopped? Just b/c the guy was shot a few times in the back doesnt' mean the threat is completely neutralized.


When he’s laying on the ground motionless. That’s also when the guy walked up to the guy and fired two more into him execution style.

Had the guy never started shooting again, he’d be off with self defense. Instead he’s looking at at least manslaughter.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41248 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:00 am to
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you click on that twitter account and see a few more of those shootings, you'll see one where a guy gets shot in the chest point blank (even though he starts shooting first and misses), and falls to the ground, only to try to get back up and get his gun while he's spraying blood everywhere through the two holes in his back, and fortunately the other guy that shot him saw it before he got the gun back and was able to get to that gun first.


Nobody is saying you stop shooting and assume he’s dead so you turn your back to him. Once he’s fallen down and is lying motionless, you stop shooting but keep you aim on him.

He neutralized the threat. Walking up to the guy after you’ve stopped shooting just to fire a few more rounds isn’t self defense at all and is taught nowhere as such. If a cop did what the shooter did, he’d be charged with murder.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:01 am to
Had a friend do something similar to this. He didn't walk up and double tap the guy, but did keep shooting after the guy retreated and killed him.


Got manslaughter and 20 years. He is a good dude and was just defending his family, just got put in a bad position and either didn't know the law or didn't stop out of emotion at the time.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 8:02 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41248 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:01 am to
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For all you know he was running to get a gun. Not guilty.


While lying face down on the ground motionless? Really effective firearm retrieval strategy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294734 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:02 am to
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He neutralized the threat. Walking up to the guy after you’ve stopped shooting just to fire a few more rounds isn’t self defense at all and is taught nowhere as such.


If youre living in a shithole country you sure do. Because if you don't finish him off, he and his friends will get their revenge.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41248 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:03 am to
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Had a friend do something similar to this. He did walk up and double tap the guy, but did keep shooting after the guy retreated. Got manslaughter and 20 years. He is a good dude and was just defending his family, just got put in a bad position and either didn't know the law or didn't stop out of emotion at the time


If he didn’t double tap the guy but rather fired at the guys chest and kept firing as the guy turned and hit him in the back, that’s still self defense to me. Especially defending his family.

Where was this case?
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