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re: NSFW- Road rage, leads to a deadly shooting.

Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:14 pm to
That witness was like, "hellnaw" Lol
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52990 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:16 pm to
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That changed the moment he followed him and shot him while he was faced down.

If he'd have just shot him right in front of him while he was coming at him with the bat he'd be fine. When the dude started running off I could understand squeezing off a few more just from adrenaline (although I'm not sure a jury would like it).

Walking after the guy and putting several more rounds in him while he's on the ground will likely put this shooter in jail.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5046 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:16 pm to
Would you keep stabbing a guy over and over who was running away from you and then lying on the ground because he might possibly have a gun?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27914 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:22 pm to
Brazil?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34847 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:28 pm to
For all you know he was running to get a gun.

Not guilty.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:39 pm to
Play stupid games
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41983 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:43 pm to
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You're taught to keep shooting until the threat is completely stopped.


The threat was stopped. The guy was lying motionless face down. This is murder in all 50 states.

quote:

I can promise you it won't be hard to find a video of other people being shot, falling to the ground face first, then turning around and still remaining a threat.


The guy could have gotten back in his car and driven away. He would have only been a threat because the shooter walked up to him instead of driving away.

Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6951 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:43 pm to
Damn, he emptied the mag. Even without the gun I’d probably take blue shirt in the fight. Red shirt is the epitome of “I’m fat but if I cut my sleeves off I’ll look tough.”
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:44 pm to
Yeah the standing over the instigator and unloading all those rounds into him is going to be extremely difficult for any attorney to overcome.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52990 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:46 pm to
Fat guy was clearly the aggressor but standing over him and emptying the mag into him will be a problem for that guy assuming this was in the US.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15736 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:48 pm to
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That's the thing. The shooter does not have to worry about retaliation now.

Or a huge Lawsuit paying the Medical bills if bat guy was crippled for the rest of his life.
Posted by GB1017LSU
Member since Nov 2015
1070 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:57 pm to
Damn….
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:15 pm to
I guess the jury vote sends a message.

If you call it murder, you're kind of defending the piece of shite that stopped his vehicle and attacked with a bat. You're emboldening violent criminals to attack first and then expect sanctuary by running away.

If you say he's innocent, you're supporting overkill. This will somewhat discourage self defense shootings.

I'd rather defend the overkill and lay the burden of fear on the attackers of this world, than the victims of road rage. I'd say he was temporarily insane from being in a life threatening situation.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26618 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:19 pm to
Only two cars on the road and they can’t find away to just get on with their day.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41983 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:49 pm to
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If you call it murder, you're kind of defending the piece of shite that stopped his vehicle and attacked with a bat. You're emboldening violent criminals to attack first and then expect sanctuary by running away.


Not really. The initial shoot was justified. No question.

The problem is the walk up and execution while he was lying face down.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14671 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:58 pm to
OOPS!
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12405 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:58 pm to
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The problem is the walk up and execution while he was lying face down.

Not a problem if I’m on the jury.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5036 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:07 pm to
That’s what I call F around and find out
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:11 pm to
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Bro toting the bat’s family wishes he'd never gotten out of the car


FIFY
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 7:12 pm
Posted by 92Tiger
Member since Dec 2015
614 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:11 pm to
First three are good shots. After that, it's a problem. It it were La., shooter would probably be facing manslaughter carrying 3-to-40.
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