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re: Not addressing the shooting here, but why do people resist arrest?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:00 pm to PapaPogey
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:00 pm to PapaPogey
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Gotta stay cool with the hood
Funny thing is, rural Montana and Idaho, let a cop try to start grabbing the citizens. But the narrative would certainly change.
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:01 pm to tigerskin
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but why do people resist arrest?
Because they have something to hide.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:01 pm to foshizzle
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For some mysterious reason I've never been arrested. Then again, I don't argue with the cops. I just speak respectfully and politely and save any arguments I might have (if any) for a judge later.
Somehow the police just never take me in when I do that. Funny how it works that way, isn't it?
The personal anecdote, while fascinating and a common experience for most normal people, doesn't disprove my statement, or justify the method.
Would you argue that I'm wrong? That a majority of "resisting arrest" charges aren't a result of insubordination/arguing/disrespect, as opposed to actually resisting arrest for a previous crime?
I'm not arguing that the victims/criminals are smart, just that they are not criminal in their actions.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:02 pm to tigerskin
Really disappointed "dinnit dunuffin" wasn't the first response to this thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:02 pm to mylsuhat
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So when an officer tries to stop and/or check you and you resist, you are resisting arrest
Is there no legal threshold for a lawful stop/check?
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:03 pm to CarRamrod
I got pulled over for speeding this morning. A crime i knowingly was committing. After the cop lit me up, i immediately pulled over and awaited his approach to my vehicle.
At the point of him approching my window, i had both hands on the wheel and didn't make any sudden movements as I told the officer that I had a pistol right off the side of my leg and that i had to reach over to get my insurance and registration.
Get this...the officer instructed me to put my hand on the weapon and place it on the seat in which i did. He didn't even have to shoot me! Why's that? B/c i showed the officer respect and didn't give him a reason to be alarmed or feel his life was in danger. Funny how that works.
At the point of him approching my window, i had both hands on the wheel and didn't make any sudden movements as I told the officer that I had a pistol right off the side of my leg and that i had to reach over to get my insurance and registration.
Get this...the officer instructed me to put my hand on the weapon and place it on the seat in which i did. He didn't even have to shoot me! Why's that? B/c i showed the officer respect and didn't give him a reason to be alarmed or feel his life was in danger. Funny how that works.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:03 pm to MSMHater
quote:being insubordination and/or arguingt can be the exact definition of resisting arrest
That a majority of "resisting arrest" charges aren't a result of insubordination/arguing/disrespect, as opposed to actually resisting arrest for a previous crime?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:06 pm to mylsuhat
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being insubordination and/or arguingt can be the exact definition of resisting arrest
That's not subjective at all right? Which may lead people to question their accuser, thus they are obviously resisting arrest. That's a pretty good answer to the OP then. Subjective judgments by police could lead to a disagreement and subsequent resisting arrest.
I get it. Question the accuser in court. Obey and live. I have done the same in my personal life successfully. It doesn't make it right, considering how the courts are stacked. But it is what it is...
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:08 pm to tigerskin
maybe some people get mistreated and aren't giant pussies.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:12 pm to tigerskin
So let's see:
They're stupid
They're guilty
They're anesthetized
They're culturally programmed to fight the power
They're mentally unstable
They're panicked
They're fighters
For whom?
The potential resister?
The LEOs?
They're stupid
They're guilty
They're anesthetized
They're culturally programmed to fight the power
They're mentally unstable
They're panicked
They're fighters
quote:
How often does that make the situation better?
For whom?
The potential resister?
The LEOs?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:20 pm to ClientNumber9
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2) Those that do resist generally freak out once they feel that first cuff go on. It's the most dangerous time for a law enforcement officer. I've seen people that are 100% complaint, talkative, calm and accepting of their plight but when that first metal bracelet goes on, something triggers in their head. I don't even think they understand it.
Because humans are still animals deep down inside. Like a tiger being cornered, that is the natural reaction.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:26 pm to ClientNumber9
Not sure what agency you're with, but I've never made a solo arrest as a federal agent. Normally we roll in numbers or with local officers.
I'm not doubting you by the way
I'm not doubting you by the way
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:26 pm to Rebelgator
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Not sure what agency you're with, but I've never made a solo arrest as a federal agent.
Before my current gig, I spent several years in the Border Patrol. We made a shite-ton of solo arrests.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:28 pm to Rebelgator
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Not sure what agency you're with, but I've never made a solo arrest as a federal agent. Normally we roll in numbers or with local officers.
There are a ton of positions that are titled "federal agents."
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:30 pm to ClientNumber9
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Not sure what agency you're with, but I've never made a solo arrest as a federal agent.
Before my current gig, I spent several years in the Border Patrol. We made a shite-ton of solo arrests
I have a request: Will you share some interesting, and entertaining stories with us? pleeeease? I enjoyed your last post. Thanks.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:38 pm to ClientNumber9
Outstanding post.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:43 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Agree I want to hear stories from c#9
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:45 pm to airfernando
I guess I'm not surprised by the amount of pussies in the OT. When some pip squeak that spent his high school career getting thumped in the ear and thinks he'll hide behind a badge, gun, taser, or whatever, I like to let him know who is boss. Most of them really are bitches. Really guys, can't take down some overweight cd salesman who is full of Hawaiian Punch and Little Debbie Cakes? Not like you were after Tyrone, or some bad arse. But that's why I fight these wimps every chance I get. Sure a little arm bending and a few hours of harassment is involved, but like the "Federal Agent" already admitted, they throw this out every time. At least Judges got beat up and focused their efforts on getting even a better way.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:51 pm to ClientNumber9
I was honestly thinking BP or Marshal's.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:57 pm to ClientNumber9
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All of those should have netted a "Assault on a Federal Officer" charge. At the federal level anyhow, these charges are rarely sustained
Which is the deeper issue here.
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