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re: NOLA Kid Had A Bad Day

Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by R11
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:18 pm to
What a loser bitch
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:18 pm to
There really is no easy solution to it. It's not popular among SJWs but I would say stop making prison so fricking comfortable. Make that shite as miserable as possible to the point that there's no way in hell you would want to go back.

As long as the risk v reward for dealing that coke or robbing that liqua store isn't that bad, criminals are going to do it. Make prison a fricking hell hole and see how many of them want to go back.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:19 pm to
Katrina being 13 years ago. You’ve got teens with serious childhood traumas and a decade of living in the east— it’s always been an issue but seems we should be feeling a spike with disenfranchised 16-20 year olds...

And that hits at the same time our police department is very low in officer counts... and sneaking up on a TON of officers ready to take pensions.

And we’re putting these guys in a jail that’s an absolute disaster.... and no shock they come out worse off than when they went in...

At some point the city needs to have a serious talk about the system we have in place.

And that ignores things like the lack of public defenders for the ones that we shouldn’t even be putting in jail (not applicable here)
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:19 pm to
No we haven't. Juveniles are released almost immediately after arrest. Adjudicated juveniles are put on unsupervised kid probation. The only juveniles jailed in New Orleans are charged with murder, rape and armed robbery.

This incident is Exhibit A of how catch and release is working.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:19 pm to
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The kids no doubt a fricking idiot but he’s also 16


What does his age matter?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:21 pm to
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As long as the risk v reward for dealing that coke or robbing that liqua store isn't that bad, criminals are going to do it.


You have to agree that violent vs non violent drug crimes are a massive issue with incarceration right?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76521 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:21 pm to
Paying people to not have kids would be the best use of resources.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

There really is no easy solution to it. It's not popular among SJWs but I would say stop making prison so fricking comfortable. Make that shite as miserable as possible to the point that there's no way in hell you would want to go back.


Yea, I’m not sure nola jail is a pleasant experience — go click today’s other thread of what a mess that is.

I have a sneaking suspicion part of the problem is how bad homes are, not how nice jail is.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:22 pm to
This kid here, could he be charged as an adult? I bet he is.
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:24 pm to
I know multiple people that have spent a few years in prison to 1-2 months in OPP. Nothing about it is confortable. Not sure where he got that narrative

Even the inmates they consider going to jail a “homecoming” wouldn’t dare say it’s confortable.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:27 pm
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:25 pm to
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14-year-old brother


But Brenda had a baby
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:27 pm to
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Not sure where he got that narrative


Deployed with MPs in the Marines and detained people, worked as a case manager with juveniles in a state facility, CJ major in undergrad.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:28 pm
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:27 pm to
Yes, only on the attempt murder.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:27 pm to
And they found jail/prison to be comfortable?


I’m not trying to be a dick FYI, just genuinely curious
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:29 pm
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:31 pm to
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And they found jail/prison to be comfortable?


The kids? It didn't seem to phase them at all. Many were gang and/or cartel affiliated and the mindset was that when they got out they were going to go back and do the same shite. Many told me in counseling sessions that if they had to come back to the facility, it wouldn't phase them one bit.... Now, I took most of that with a grain of salt because many will just bullshite you to seem tough but I got the sense that they wouldn't have minded going back for another stint if they had to. I only worked there for about 6 months, so that's just based on my experience at that facility.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:32 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:33 pm to
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SS is a free man, baw!



Why hasn't he been posting?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11304 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:35 pm to
Likewise not trying to be confrontational- and genuinely surprised to hear from someone doing counseling sessions that they think jail is too nice and needs to be harder on the inmates.

Not to pry- but any info on where? It’s certainly not the case here.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57519 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:38 pm to
I get what you’re saying but I still say that our state has an incarceration issue. I don’t get how anyone can’t agree, especially with prison unions and privatized prisons. Yes, it may not agree with this specific situation but as a whole.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:43 pm to
See? You're regurgitating talking points you don't understand. 8% of all prisoners nationwide are being held in private prisons, and less than 7% of state prisoners are held there.

LINK

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Statistics from the U.S. Department of Justice show that, as of 2013, there were 133,000 state and federal prisoners housed in privately owned prisons in the U.S., constituting 8.4% of the overall U.S. prison population.


In Louisiana, that number is even lower, and the vast majority of state prisoners are housed in Parish jails. The largest private prison here houses federal ICE detainees.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:48 pm
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:45 pm to
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but any info on where?


I juvenile facility in rural Texas
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