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re: Nobody makes themselves successful
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:46 am to Salmon
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:46 am to Salmon
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can we have this discussion without you constantly throwing around pseudo philosophy terms with negative connotations?
Sorry the truth makes you uncomfortable. You really should stop rejecting things because it's new to you
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Introspective thinking.
Every day decisions
Rejecting "old ways"
Becoming independent if groups or tribes
how did they learn this? why were they able to do this instead of others?
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Sorry the truth makes you uncomfortable. You really should stop rejecting things because it's new to you
I love ironic posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:48 am to Salmon
Are you doing the Sam Harris "our actions are a result of DNA" argument? If so, while I can understand it, it ultimately leads to nihilistic chaos.
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 10:49 am
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The anti individualist point of view.
Typical response.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:49 am to Salmon
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If our circumstances have an affect (like you stated above), how can we also have 100% power over the decisions?
Because our circumstances can only have as much effect as we allow them to have on us. For good or ill. You personally decide that.
Say you have an abusive, alcoholic father but a caring, supportive mother. Both have an effect. It’s your decision, however, which one will have the greater effect.
Will you continue the line of shittiness or resolve to be a better man?
It doesn’t matter how much help or harm people and events do you. Being great will never be easy. You have to personally resolve yourself for it.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:50 am to Salmon
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how did they learn this?
To think freely? Wow
Like anything else, they've spent a lot of time thinking, observing and have the ability to see interconnectivity and alternative ways
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why were they able to do this instead of others?
Because my st people are followers, and crave security.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:50 am to Jcorye1
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Are you doing the Sam Harris "out actions are a result of DNA" argument?
among other things, its not all DNA
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If so, while I can understand it, it ultimately leads to nihilistic chaos.
probably
which is why it makes so many people uncomfortable to discuss it
I, personally, think it is beyond fascinating and believe we should focus more on it
if we can determine why people do things more effectively, I think we could have a much better society
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:51 am to Decisions
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Because our circumstances can only have as much effect as we allow them to have on us. For good or ill. You personally decide that.
Perfect.
We allow influence, or we choose independence from it
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Like anything else, they've spent a lot of time thinking, observing and have the ability to see interconnectivity and alternative ways
again...what allows them to do this over others?
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Because my st people are followers, and crave security.
why are they like this?
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:52 am to The Spleen
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Typical response.
It's right on.
Free thinking scares you.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:53 am to Decisions
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Because our circumstances can only have as much effect as we allow them to have on us. For good or ill. You personally decide that.
how much effect?
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Say you have an abusive, alcoholic father but a caring, supportive mother. Both have an effect. It’s your decision, however, which one will have the greater effect.
is it though?
perhaps you are just genetically more like your mom which causes you to side with her?
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:54 am to Salmon
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what allows them to do this over others?
Their own decisions
Everyone possesses the ability. Most stick with what's mwrong st comforting, like your point of view.
The idea that we can be responsible for our own outcome is terrifying to some people.
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Free thinking scares you.
the only person that has attacked other opinions in this thread is you
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You're a product of the decisions you make. You cannot control external things, but it's the internal things that decide your fate.
Sure, but external things help shape your internal decision making. It's a tough cycle.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:55 am to Salmon
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the only person that has attacked other opinions in this thread is you
I haven't attacked anything. I just told the truth and it makes you uncomfortable
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Their own decisions
why are they able to decide to break free?
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Most stick with what's mwrong st comforting, like your point of view.
How is my point of view more comforting?
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The idea that we can be responsible for our own outcome is terrifying to some people.
and vice versa, apparently
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I haven't attacked anything. I just told the truth and it makes you uncomfortable
once again, I enjoy your ironic posts Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Free thinking scares you.
Yes, I am scared of free thinking because I think every single highly successful person has had help of some kind along the way.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 11:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
Roger, your position in the last few pages is based on the faulty logic that everyone has some innate moral compass.
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