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re: Nobel prize 'horse paste' that costs 3c/dose reduces Covid death by 70%, infections by 44%

Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56939 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:30 pm to
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Doctors don’t need the business at this point, so please make room for those who actually want our care.


Many doctors aren’t really practicing medicine in large part. they are following the “guidance” aka orders of centralized medicine.

The inability to quickly recognize the ineffectiveness of the vaccine and the willingness to try and twist the arms of patients to get vaccinated shows how limited value some doctors have. The good ones are too few and far between.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:50 pm to
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You realize there were people promoting going to
Tractor Supply and self-medicating with the paste specified for horses?


bullshite. You realize people take Ketamine- used as an anesthesia for cats- to get high, right? No one is suggesting or advocating that they do that. But they do. And no one was advocating or suggesting that anyone go buy ivermectin in the anthelmintic form and ingest it. But they did. Newsflash, Some people are stupid.

But none of that is justification to ban the use of either drug and restrict its availability. Yet that’s exactly what the powers at be did with Ivermectin. Only they didn’t do it because some idiot was using the dewormer. They left that right on the shelf. No, they made the human grade forms more difficult to obtain. Why? They didn’t ban the drug. They just made it virtually impossible to use for Covid. And you’re still defending this?

Contrary to the Covidians hyperventilating here, you can find studies on Pubmed that indeed indicate Covid was useful as a prophylactic and (minimally) beneficial as a treatment. The consensus is…we need bigger studies to truly evaluate it.
There has never been and still isn’t any legitimate reason for blacklisting this drug. Just like there’s no reason to blacklist monoclonal antibodies. Yet they did. Why?
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3737 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:57 pm to
I wasn’t in my nursing career very many years before I learned that the only Drs.worth going to are specialists-cardiologists, surgeons,orthopedist’s,etc.and not all of them.Good thing about working in hospitals,easy to find out which Dr. to go and which to avoid.
FP’s,Internists - forget it.I could post pages,about the frick ups I’ve seen - missed diagnosis ‘s ,wrong diagnosis.Several of them in my own family.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:58 pm to
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Imagine thinking doctors are getting paid more for one treatment modality over another


Not the doctors, but the medical corporations that own the clinic you practice in certainly had an interest in promoting certain treatments.

Or are you calling out all the doctors, nurses, and researchers who have claimed that they were told by their employers how and what treatment modalities they could use and what information they could share? Are you calling them all
Liars?
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:01 pm to
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love how every time an article gets posted that goes against your belief, yall always reply like you know exactly who the author is, their history, their intentions, etc.

You are clearly the one who only chooses to use studies that follow your beliefs. For every study claiming ivermectin treats covid, there are 100 more claiming it doesn't have any statistical significance. The Latin American countries that pushed ivermectin as the treatment have the most excess deaths during the "pandemic" in the world. Idk how you can explain that if ivermectin works as you believe.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68710 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:03 pm to
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And no one was advocating or suggesting that anyone go buy ivermectin in the anthelmintic form and ingest it. But they did.
There were threads on this site about dosing formulations from tractor supply, etc.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:04 pm to
What exactly is the definition of an excess death? Is it one for which no definitive cause of death was found?
Posted by geauxjuice
t(-.-t)
Member since Jan 2007
4133 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:13 pm to
# of deaths above what would be expected given the normal rate
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:17 pm to
Thanks.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38705 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:18 pm to
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There were threads on this site about dosing formulations from tractor supply, etc.



I was told you can substitute this for the horse paste.

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:21 pm to
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There were threads on this site about dosing formulations from tractor supply, etc.



Tractor Supply itself was giving out dosing information for the use of its Ivermectin products in humans?
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3381 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:42 pm to
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am totally disgusted with Drs.I understand the pressure they were under from CMS
but if they had joined together as a profession,gone to the media they could have busted this thing wide open.
But no,their allegiance to money is greater than concern for human lives.



I agree, I don’t even want to see my doctor’s face because of this.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
23007 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:51 pm to
A federal judge also just ordered Pfizer and the FDA to release the company's known adverse effects of the pharmaceutical giant's vaccine treatment.

They were attempting to wait 75 years to release the info, but they were force to. They did Not want this info out there.

LINK

The list of adverse effects featured 158,000 adverse events:

The effects listed in these documents include:

Acute kidney injury
Acute flaccid myelitis
Anti-sperm antibody positive
Brain stem embolism
Brain stem thrombosis
Cardiac arrest
Cardiac failure
Cardiac ventricular thrombosis
Cardiogenic shock
Central nervous system vasculitis
Death neonatal
Deep vein thrombosis
Encephalitis brain stem



quote:



New documents uncover a shocking 158,000 adverse events

PFIZER have included the common gastrointestinal symptoms, fatigue and brain fog as potential adverse events of the jab. According to new documents which have been released after a federal judge ordered the data to be made public.


The Pfizer vaccine has largely had mild and short-lived effects. But new documents which were reportedly obtained after doctors, professors and journalists filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have suggested new 'adverse events'.



A federal judge in Texas ordered the Food and Drug Administration to make public the data it relied on to license Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine.

It is the first time the public are allowed to access the data Pfizer submitted to FDA from its clinical trials in support of a COVID-19 vaccine license.





Oh yeah, Isreal, who used the Phuzer vaccine to inncoulate 100% of their population, is now "concerned" about so many
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35071 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:35 pm to
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You are clearly the one who only chooses to use studies that follow your beliefs. For every study claiming ivermectin treats covid, there are 100 more claiming it doesn't have any statistical significance.


Just based solely on this one study noted in this thread, would you please post the 100 studies that refute it.

Please make sure that the WHO, NIH, and CDC did not take part in those studies, because those organizations are suspect.

Thanks.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35071 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:36 pm to
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I was told you can substitute this for the horse paste.


From arse to mouth?

Are you an Aggie?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28618 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:37 pm to
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I agree, I don’t even want to see my doctor’s face because of this.

I’m sure he’s broken up about it. More space on the schedule for patients without animosity towards him over their own delusions. Oh shucks.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28618 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:49 pm to
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The inability to quickly recognize the ineffectiveness of the vaccine and the willingness to try and twist the arms of patients to get vaccinated shows how limited value some doctors have.

Why do people keep insisting the vaccine was ineffective when the data overwhelmingly shows that it reduced the risk of death and hospitalization during the alpha and delta waves? You’re just being intentionally obtuse at this point. Or maybe you’re so far up your own arse with this stuff that you don’t know/care that you’re wrong.
quote:

Or are you calling out all the doctors, nurses, and researchers who have claimed that they were told by their employers how and what treatment modalities they could use and what information they could share? Are you calling them all


No one tells me what I can and cannot do, but I’m not going to prescribe something without decent evidence that it will help someone more than harm. That’s called practicing good, evidence-based, patient-centered medicine and is also the basis of the Hippocratic oath. Most doctors try their best to practice the standard of care in their given field. Sorry not sorry that it bothers you.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3381 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:23 pm to
Doctors that “went along to get along” are complicit in all the unnecessary deaths. They stopped doctoring.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20760 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:40 pm to
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Please make sure that the WHO, NIH, and CDC did not take part in those studies, because those organizations are suspect.



Sure, there's a lot of bullshite that comes from those organizations, but let's get real. A study done by a group of Miami plastic surgeons is hardly more reliable.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 8:02 pm to
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No one tells me what I can and cannot do,


Cool. Now answer the question. Are you calling your peers liars or not. Cause they made the allegations.
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