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re: NOB Negotiations Underway - USW needs your support
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:27 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:27 am to fightin tigers
Not gonna be a lot of public support around BR right now amongst most sane people. Exxon already threatening to hold off on future projects, and potential long term pull out. With the three plants in Zachary closing down adding more fuel to that fire. Not a good time for the USW to try flexing its muscles with demands.
Not to mention the govt shutdown going on.
Not to mention the govt shutdown going on.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 5:34 am
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:46 am to shiftworker
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Go ask the USW leadership about how the strike fund works. I was appalled at the answer they gave me.
The union doesn't have the funds to pay everyone if that is what you are saying. Most locals will vote to send a dollar per member to those that are on strike. It doesn't equal huge amounts anyway.
Depending on the level, the few union leaders at the local level will get pay during a strike.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:58 am to notiger1997
The current membership percentage at the XOM sites is 89%. Try again.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:00 am to fightin tigers
XOM begins negotiations on March 11. Contract expires March 31. The contract can be extended through July 15 to continue negotiations if needed.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:10 am to elsu
How uninformed you are! I guess you’ve never stepped foot in the refinery in BR. You know the big fire last year in Nov at the site? Yeah, the one that made the news. Risk assessed leaking exchangers lit off. That’s right. The company decided to keep the leaking exchangers in service to maximize the profit. They had the option to bypass that bank and slow rates until it was repaired. They chose wrong and a lot of operators were put in harm’s way isolating and extinguishing the subsequent fire. Yep, unions not needed in conditions like this....
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:19 am to DirtyHarry
These dumbasses don't realize that when the companies have a downturn in business, they come to the unions for give backs. But when they are making record profits, the unions are just being greedy for asking them to share in the profits. All the while the top brass is being paid handsomely even in down times.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:21 am to Cool Hand Luke
The majority of raises for first line supervisors are based on the raises negotiated with the union. They actively cheer our raises.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:45 am to DirtyHarry
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The current membership percentage at the XOM sites is 89%. Try again.
I was just meaning in general that of all the people who work in a refinery, most aren't union. Of course the company operators and their kind are.
Unions could have been done away with 20 years ago and everyone would still be doing well.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:55 am to DirtyHarry
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Risk assessed leaking exchangers lit off. That’s right. The company decided to keep the leaking exchangers in service to maximize the profit. They had the option to bypass that bank and slow rates until it was repaired. They chose wrong and a lot of operators were put in harm’s way isolating and extinguishing the subsequent fire. Yep, unions not needed in conditions like this.
They aren't needed in situations like these. Perhaps they need better operations and maintenance managers? I don't see where unions make any difference in this situation.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:58 am to notiger1997
That’s news to me. The only non union plant I know of around BR is Shell. That being said, unions are needed in the refining/chemical industries now more than ever. The current financial market dictates that. All companies want to maximize the profit with as little maintenance as possible to deliver strong returns to the shareholders. I am a shareholder at my workplace. I want the company to profit tremendously so I can retire and live easy. But not at the expense of the people who run and work the old equipment. I’m not trying to convince you but giving you my perspective in the matter.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:59 am to Lutcher Lad
OT don’t like Unions, baw.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 8:02 am to Loaner1231
The union calls OSHA or any other government entity in a situation like this. You really think a company would self report? When situations like these arise, the operators are ALWAYS the first out. We, the union, bring facts in and ensure the finger is pointed in the right direction.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 8:12 am to fightin tigers
Hey jackass... I could have done the work by myself. I’m a contractor. But then , I’d get in trouble for taking work away from the union guys. Or better yet, I could do the work and the union could file a grievance and they would get paid for doing the work even though they never moved from the break room.
Nice try, try again !
Nice try, try again !
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 8:31 am
Posted on 1/24/19 at 8:14 am to DirtyHarry
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That’s news to me. The only non union plant I know of around BR is Shell.
I thought the XOM North Plants (BRPO, BRRP and BRPP) were non union?
Posted on 1/24/19 at 8:15 am to JonTheTigerFan
They are. I forgot the plants up north of us. My bad.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:15 am to DirtyHarry
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The only non union plant I know of around BR is Shell
Not all Exxon sites are even union.
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That being said, unions are needed in the refining/chemical industries now more than ever. The current financial market dictates that. All companies want to maximize the profit with as little maintenance as possible to deliver strong returns to the shareholders.
Financial markets have ALWAYS pushed companies to maximize returns, but wages have always continued to go up. The non-unionized sites for Exxon actually make more per hour with the same benefits than the union sites do. Maybe the world doesn’t operate exactly as you think it does.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:32 am to CollegeFBRules
Yes they make more per hour to keep the employees from organizing. That is a known fact. I know exactly how the world operates. I know that all employees are replaceable. I know that unions have made this country stronger. I know that because of unions, the benefits that most companies provide, both union and non union sites, are because employees have organized throughout history and fought for these things. But my opinion, as well as yours, really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. I’ll enjoy my union job and retire very wealthy.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:08 am to Lutcher Lad
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You haters should be thanking those bad, old union guys!
Detroit would like a word...
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 11:11 am
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:12 am to CollegeFBRules
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The non-unionized sites for Exxon actually make more per hour with the same benefits than the union sites do
And mechanical workers at those sites work 4-10s while BRCX is stuck on working 5-8s for some reason. I’ve always heard the union pushes against 4-10s but not sure if that’s the case.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:10 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Detroit would like a word...
Did unions cause the car companies to vastly miscalculate the consumer market?
There were plenty of reasons why the Big 3 fell besides union pensions.
Or do you mean the city of Detroit that lost it's tax base due to poor management and infrastructure miscalculations that resulted in crazy maintenance costs.
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