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re: Noah's Ark found?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:26 am to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:26 am to AwgustaDawg
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The entirety of all religions is sooooo illogical that it is amazing so many adults pretend to believe any of it is factual
I truly pity those of you who have hardened your hearts to the Lord. The proof of his existence is all around you.
The over complication and doubt and scientific demand for proof of every single tiny detail is a brilliant deception.
God exists. And so does the Devil.
It amazes me how many people will happily and vehemently believe “The universe has simply always existed meaninglessly and chaotically and magically and without beginning and on our planet somehow in a puddle somewhere some random nonliving molecules suddenly began to live and mutate and eventually all life on the planet evolved from that random mutating molecule. Life is a worthless meaningless empty existence begat by random chance and nothing you or anyone else does matters or makes any difference in any way to anyone”
And act like that is much more profound and much more scientific than:
“an all powerful being created the universe, and everything in it, and then created mankind in his image.”
Logically and scientifically, it makes more sense that something created the universe than all of it happened by just random chance. But this simple single truth of a creator shatters the world view of the denier. And so it is rejected.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 5:39 am
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:40 am to Breesus
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I truly pity those of you who have hardened your hearts to the Lord. The proof of his existence is all around you.
Faith is what's required, not proof. If one is seeking and finding proof it is because their faith is wanting. I have faith in my wife's fidelity....I do not seek proof because I have faith. If I start looking for proof it means something has occurred to rock my faith.....
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The universe has simply always existed meaninglessly and chaotically and magically and without beginning and on our planet we somehow developed an ozone randomly and then one time in a puddle some random molecules suddenly began to live and mutate and eventually all life on the planet evolved from that random mutating molecule. Life is a worthless meaningless empty existence begat by random chance and nothing you or anyone else does matters or makes any difference in any way to anyo
This is a valid point. If someone claims they have proof there is no God they are as ignorant as someone claiming there is. Most atheists simply admit they do not know, no one knows, and that a magical entity in the sky is highly unlikely.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:43 am to forkedintheroad
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That an all powerful God can wipe us out?
Yes, but then it is no longer benevolent. So this God can't exist. It's impossible. There's something out there but it's not the god in the Bible.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:55 am to saintsfan1977
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That an all powerful God can wipe us out? Yes, but then it is no longer benevolent. So this God can't exist. It's impossible
God tells us himself that he is a jealous God that punishes the son for the sins of the father (Exodus 20)
A benevolent parent can punish a child for misbehaving. That doesn’t make the parent bad.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:56 am to AwgustaDawg
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I do not seek proof because I have faith
Maybe you don’t seek proof because the proof is all around you and you take it for granted or you just don’t think about all the proof that exists.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 5:57 am
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:00 am to Breesus
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A benevolent parent can punish a child for misbehaving. That doesn’t make the parent bad
No but the god in the Bible is not benevolent. Far from it. Look around and you can see that being does not exist. It's physically and literally impossible for an omniscient, benevolent, omnipotent being to exist. It can't.
Besides if it wasn't for words, god would crumble. It's made up.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:08 am to saintsfan1977
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the god in the Bible is not benevolent
He absolutely is. He generously rewards those who follow Him and ask for His help and He punishes those who do not and choose to deny Him and worship evil.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 6:10 am
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:10 am to Breesus
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He punishes those who do not and choose to deny Him and worship evil.
This proves my point. Thanks.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:14 am to saintsfan1977
Giving a meth addict more meth is not benevolence.
Telling a schizophrenic that the voices are real is not benevolence.
Correcting incorrect behavior and guiding someone towards a better life does not prove counter to benevolence.
And yes, God can choose to wipe us all out. No Christian would believe otherwise.
Telling a schizophrenic that the voices are real is not benevolence.
Correcting incorrect behavior and guiding someone towards a better life does not prove counter to benevolence.
And yes, God can choose to wipe us all out. No Christian would believe otherwise.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 6:16 am
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:18 am to Breesus
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Correcting incorrect behavior and guiding someone towards a better life does not prove counter to benevolence.
God did none of those things. It's simply either you believe in me or suffer eternally. Sorry but our definition of benevolent is 2 different things. This God is not worthy of being worshipped.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:23 am to saintsfan1977
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God did none of those things.
Have you ever studied the Bible yourself or are you just making things up from your own assumptions and second hand things you’ve heard?
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This God is not worthy of being worshipped.
I hope you open your heart and find peace in Him one day.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:27 am to Breesus
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Have you ever studied the Bible yourself or are you just making things up from your own assumptions and second hand things you’ve heard?
If you read it you already know. You are denying reality.
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hope you open your heart and find peace in Him one day.
I have. I've made peace with the fact that it doesn't exist. There's definitely a god but it's not the one in the Bible. That much is certain.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:45 am to Breesus
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Logically and scientifically, it makes more sense that something created the universe than all of it happened by just random chance. But this simple single truth of a creator shatters the world view of the denier. And so it is rejected.
Ehhhhh I dunno about the whole logically or scientifically part
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:46 am to RPC4LSU
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Was Dale Brown there?
No, but Bigfoot and Jimmy Hoffa were.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:48 am to Breesus
quote:He also punishes those who earnestly seek to know Him but cannot develop faith without tangible proof. This is troubling because eternal damnation is entirely His creation, and He has the power to spare His children from that fate. Yet, He places obstacles to salvation, such as compelling scientific theories and a complete lack of exposure to His message for countless people throughout history.
He punishes those who do not and choose to deny Him and worship evil.
Why would an omniscient God, who loves His children, actively hinder their ability to believe in Him when their eternal souls are at stake?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:51 am to AwgustaDawg
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Faith is what's required, not proof. If one is seeking and finding proof it is because their faith is wanting. I have faith in my wife's fidelity....I do not seek proof because I have faith. If I start looking for proof it means something has occurred to rock my faith.....
Nothing wrong with doubt. Even those who followed Jesus, witnessed Jesus perform miracles, and were among his closest students had doubts and he provided proof to them.
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This is a valid point. If someone claims they have proof there is no God they are as ignorant as someone claiming there is. Most atheists simply admit they do not know, no one knows, and that a magical entity in the sky is highly unlikely.
That’s agnostic, atheist is claiming to know.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:25 am to Bama Bird
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You mean Babylonian.
No, read the post I responded to. I meant Jewish context.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:42 am to Boondock Saint
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Good lord people, I'm still shocked that any rational, thinking person with an IQ over 100 could actually believe that something like this story could have actually happened. In so many ways it's just ludicrous.
You do understand that not every animal on Earth is in one place on the planet to be loaded onto a boat?
I won't even list out the other numerous things that simply cannot happen due to laws of physics, etc.
and it's amazing that anyone with an IQ above room temperature can't look at the story and draw a few very reasonable deductions.
The people who would have been writing this story had no clue places like East Asia, or the Americas, or Australia, etc. even existed.
Their description of "the entire world" is really the entire world they were aware of. Which geographically speaking is a really small area.
And there is evidence of a mass flooding event at some point in history in the area they would have know to be the "entire world".
again, "2 of every animal in the world" when reduced down to only animals they even knew existed becomes a very small number. a number small enough to be feasible to fit on a large boat.
so look at it from the perspective of those telling the story and not the perspective of what we know of the world today.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:47 am to Boondock Saint
noah probably loaded up his farm animals because of a flooding rain like we had in 2016. obviously, he and the others probably thought that his area was the entire world since it wasn't explored yet. no giraffes, no kangaroos, etc.......
those photos were depicted by story tellers much later.
those photos were depicted by story tellers much later.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:50 am to Boondock Saint
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I'm sure you won't believe it, but a quick ChatGPT (who I'm sure you think is run by some crazy liberals) search explains rationally that the Earth was never completely flooded. It's just science, and probably doesn't apply to you.
Interesting that you are claiming the intellectual high ground, while openly admitting to running to ChatGPT at the first sign of being challenged.
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