re: No parent should have to bury their kid.

That shite hurts even when you don’t know them.

I remember the morning of Sandy Hook. My baby girl was the same age as those kids. I was fricking balling, man. Most senseless, irrational, evil shite I’d ever heard. Of course, nowadays it’s becoming common place, unfortunately. At the time, elementary school shootings were unheard of. shite still bugs me.

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God bless this child's parents

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Would’ve been nice if God would’ve just preventing the event. Or if God willed it, there’s not much point in asking for a blessing.

I remember...

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That’s not how it works. God doesn’t step in

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If that’s what you believe, then prayer - asking God to intervene - is pointless. No use praying for someone to be miraculously healed if God can’t or won’t. If you don’t believe God will intervene and give you your daily bread, then quit petitioning him for it every Sunday.

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If a father and son are playing a game of catch. Maybe the ball goes into the street and the boy runs after it. The boy gets hit by a car and dies. The father playing catch did not cause that, will that or want that.

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The father in your example isn’t an omnipotent deity. It’s a false equivalency.

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God isn’t up there controlling us. Free will is real.

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There’s countless examples of God in the Bible violating people’s free will. One of the most plainly obvious that everyone should know is how God mind-controlled the Pharoah to prevent him from releasing the Israelites just so he could show off with his plagues.

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Would’ve been nice if God would’ve just preventing the event. Or if God willed it, there’s not much point in asking for a blessing.

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Do you feel better, now? After shitting on grieving people and their faith? Go away.

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that’s what you believe, then prayer - asking God to intervene - is pointless. No use praying for someone to be miraculously healed if God can’t or won’t. If you don’t believe God will intervene and give you your daily bread, then quit petitioning him for it every Sunday.

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God gives me my daily bread. The belief that he is a “Genie in a lamp” is laughable. It’s laughable to live with the belief that life should be without losses, pain, and trauma. And should life be extremely difficult then God didn’t
Do his part? (I say this as a man who lost his son in a very violent accident.) that’s not accurate. I would t be able to stand without God holding me up. That is his act of mercy. The strength given.

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The father in your example isn’t an omnipotent deity. It’s a false equivalency.

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Ha! Then you have no idea of the power of a true father.

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There’s countless examples of God in the Bible violating people’s free will. One of the most plainly obvious that everyone should know is how God mind-controlled the Pharoah to prevent him from releasing the Israelites just so he could show off with his plagues.

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Two things on this.
The Bible isn’t the end all be all. Every person that sounds like you loves to point to something in or about the Bible. God’s house wasn’t built on a Bible. Much like love…there is way more to it than the lovey Cupid stuff. Much like music there is much more to the music than a sound. Much like football there is more to it than crossing a white line for points. But you lack the depth to see such things.

Another thing is that you’ve never read the book you speak of. You may have read stories but it’s plainly obvious you have no clue of “The Story” because if did read it wholly and understand I wouldnt be typing this stuff.

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This is a topic that comes up a lot at my house as it pertains to my son. How can God do this, why did he do this. Is there a God? I'm not hear to try and push religion on anyone. My oldest daughter has said recently she doesn't believe in God, which I completely understand. My response back and my belief is that if I ever want to see my kids again, I have to believe in God and pray that I make it up there.

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Makers and the others here.

We didn’t lose a child, but our oldest was on deaths door several times over the years. Many times we went to sleep not knowing if he’d survive the night.

And while he’s healthy as can be these days, he still has complications that could turn in an instant.

One day the Lord put it on my heart that there was no pain or fear of losing my son I had that He didn’t endure Himself. The Father watching the Son crucified. And the Son up to the task. He knows the pain because He endured it Himself, willingly.

I don’t know if I’m able to write it in words in a way that conveys the love properly. God Bless all in this thread.

My cousin’s son killed himself in high school. It was devastating to everyone. He obviously had issues but seemed like a great kid at family events. My oldest son who was young at the time loved seeing him…he was great with the kids. Telling my son he died (I didn’t say what happened at the time) was heart wrenching.

A suicide for a parent has to be brutal to deal with.

My oldest just turned 18 and I’m worried every time he leaves the house. Too much shite can happen fast out in the world.

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So you believe God created us with the specific intention to inflict pain and suffering on us? Seems kind of hard to believe, if he loves us.

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He inflicted love. It’s a story of salvation. You’ll continue to see whatever it is you want. I’m hoping you’ll look again.