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re: No matter what direction we point a telescope, we always look toward the Big Bang - why?
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:28 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:28 pm to Fun Bunch
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And what is the natural, scientific, observable solution?
Ha. You first.
My explanation is God spoke and created the universe in six days. He is the creator of everything and the redeemer of my soul.
But you don't have a better solution, only an unworkable, unproveable theory.
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:28 pm to MyNameIsNobody
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Thats why people don't buy the "earth is billions of years old".
How old is the Earth and how did you come by that conclusion?
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:28 pm to MyNameIsNobody
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Thats why people don't buy the "earth is billions of years old". If the earth has always been 94 million miles from the sun, just how small was the earth and the sun 4.5 billion years ago when our planet "expanded" out of empty space and would become "earth"? And then it took 4.5 billion years for it to expand to the size it is today?
The frick
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:29 pm to MyNameIsNobody
quote:I can see why you don't buy it. You completely misunderstand the concept.
Thats why people don't buy the "earth is billions of years old". If the earth has always been 94 million miles from the sun, just how small was the earth and the sun 4.5 billion years ago when our planet "expanded" out of empty space and would become "earth"? And then it took 4.5 billion years for it to expand to the size it is today?
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:29 pm to squid_hunt
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Ha. You first.
My explanation is God spoke and created the universe in six days. He is the creator of everything and the redeemer of my soul.
But you don't have a better solution, only an unworkable, unproveable theory.
We base ours on observable data. No theory can be "proven" because its not math.
You base yours on nothing whatsoever, therefore its not worth having a conversation with someone as deeply mentally disturbed as you are.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:32 pm to Zephyrius
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What if its true that the early Church Fathers were correct that the earth is the center of the universe.
Spoiler alert: it's not.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:34 pm to Fun Bunch
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We base ours on observable data. No theory can be "proven" because its not math.
Whatever justification you need. Your beliefs are a choice. They're not fact based. You choose what theories to accept or dismiss, which is your choice, but you should stop pretending like you value science because your theory is unscientific by definition
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:36 pm to DarthRebel
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Science is wrong, more than it is right. They are going to have Universe evolution pretty wrong in the end. It is scary how many people here that do not question it and just regurgitate what they have been told or read by our "experts"
The more you keep saying this the more I don't think you understand what science is and how it works. Of course some proposed explanations are not correct, they get refined and reworked to incorporate new findings. That doesn't change that what we know today is far more than we knew some time ago. To sit around Monday morning quarterbacking the process from an armchair doesn't make you come off as more intelligent than the people working to figure it out.
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Are these the same people that came up with more than 2 genders
Ah, the strawman argument. Yes, astronomers sit around writing gender theory papers as well. Got 'em!
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:37 pm to squid_hunt
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They're not fact based
They are.
They are based on observable data.
This is the old game from lunatics, trying to equate supernatural with the natural by saying "its all just theories".
They are not equivalent. The end.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:38 pm to StringedInstruments
Space blows my mind. I can’t comprehend it.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:39 pm to Fun Bunch
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They are based on observable data.
Ok. So how old do you believe the universe to be?
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:42 pm to squid_hunt
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Ok. So how old do you believe the universe to be?
How old do you believe earth to be?
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:43 pm to Kankles
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Because that’s how God made it
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As Terence McKenna observed, 'Modern science is based on the principle: Give us one free miracle and we'll explain the rest.' The one free miracle is the appearance of all the mass and energy in the universe and all the laws that govern it in a single instant from nothing."
-- Rupert Sheldrake, Morphic Resonance: The Nature of Formative Causation
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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They are not equivalent. The end.
Naturalism is just an excuse to pretend you are rational and fact based. But what we're seeing is even physicists are abandoning their own laws to embrace theories that fit the facts. The silliness of your hostility to me is obvious. I stayed 100% in the rational and ripped your beiief system to shreds because you understand that if the universe is bigger than 13.8 then your model is broken. I'm sure we'll come up with a new set of rules to hold it together, like dark matter does, but Korkstand already demonstrated you guys are willing to cheat to save the science.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:45 pm to squid_hunt
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Ok. So how old do you believe the universe to be?
Based on the data we have now, the OBSERVABLE universe is approximately 13.77 billion years old. I can only base it on what we know and what is observable.
As our technology expands, so would what is observable, so could our understanding of this timeline, which would all be great.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:45 pm to SoonerK
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How old do you believe earth to be?
Just answer the question.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:47 pm to squid_hunt
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ripped your beiief system to shreds
You did no such thing. Everything you have said has been total nonsense with little understanding of the actual science.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:47 pm to squid_hunt
quote:You very obviously do not understand science.
Whatever justification you need. Your beliefs are a choice. They're not fact based. You choose what theories to accept or dismiss, which is your choice, but you should stop pretending like you value science because your theory is unscientific by definition
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:47 pm to Fun Bunch
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Based on the data we have now, the OBSERVABLE universe is approximately 13.77 billion years old.
That's an unreasonable answer unless you are willing to say we are at the center.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:48 pm to Korkstand
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You very obviously do not understand science.
No, I do. But I believe in God and the his word. You're the one talking about light jumping to a convenient location without cause.
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