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re: No homeowners insurance without new roof

Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:42 am to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70942 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:42 am to
Are we? Might be why I haven't been given a hard time about mine yet.

I dont think I can go back to a shingle roof. Metal is so nice. Easy to DIY, and it's damn nice to not have to worry about it much.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6460 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:46 am to
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Is this a thing with all insurance companies?


Yes, very common.

Welcome to home ownership.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11064 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:52 am to
The “30 year” roof doesn’t last 30 years in the south, especially on the coast. Florida just passed a law that prevents companies from declining just because of age. However, it doesn’t preclude declinations for condition.

At 10-15 years you’re going to have granular loss and signs of cupping in most instances
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6460 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:55 am to
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I dont think I can go back to a shingle roof. Metal is so nice. Easy to DIY, and it's damn nice to not have to worry about it much.


Depends on area, builders and insurance companies vary on metal roofs in some areas because of leaks with expending and contracting metal. Also many insurance companies excluded cosmetic damage from claims such as falling tree limbs and hail damage. There is a house here with a high end metal roof that looks like a 1998 Toyota Corolla that was hit by 300 golf balls.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56622 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:56 am to
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Is this a thing with all insurance companies?
yes...happened to me last year

Find a roofing company that can verify a hail storm in your area while you had coverage within the last two years and file a claim due to "storm damage"

You'll pay your deductible get get a new roof. If they do drop you you can easily find a new policy with lower rates because of the roof they just paid for.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70942 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:00 am to
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house here with a high end metal roof that looks like a 1998 Toyota Corolla that was hit by 300 golf balls


You talking about mine? Ida put some tree limbs through mine and it's all fricked up now. Still not leaking though due to some real redneck patchwork.

I did have to change all the screws in mine at ~25 years old. It's heavy gauge corrugated with regular ol screws into purlins. Having 2x4 purlins helps.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11064 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:06 am to
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Find a roofing company that can verify a hail storm in your area while you had coverage within the last two years and file a claim due to "storm damage" You'll pay your deductible get get a new roof. If they do drop you you can easily find a new policy with


Terrible advice in todays market, but sure go for it
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
17211 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:09 am to
Did previous insurer pay for a roof he didn’t actually replace?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56622 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:17 am to
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Terrible advice in todays market, but sure go for it


The alternative is paying out of pocket for a new roof otherwise it's LA Citizens. It's what they want homeowners to do. They want to strong arm homeowners in paying for a new roof OOP. File a legitimate claim and put it on the underwriter if they want to drop you..if they do, you can find a new policy much easier with a new roof.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:22 am to
Insurance companies deserve every bad thing said about them.

My kid's have a house that they filed an insurance claim for a hail storm and the company said the roof wasn't damaged, but when the policy renewed they said they were cancelling them because of the roof.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11064 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:23 am to
First off, your strategy of finding a roof company to claim there is damage from a hail storm and cover full replacement is part of the reason insurance prices are so high.

You’re essentially encouraging fraud to get a new roof. Good luck getting coverage with carriers moving forward with that roof claim btw.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:28 am to
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See if they will put the roof on actual cash value settlement instead of replacement cost.


And then right after the next storm OP will be back here complaining his insurance will only pay him a fraction of the cost to replace a 30 year old roof that got damaged.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11064 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:34 am to
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And then right after the next storm OP will be back here complaining his insurance will only pay him a fraction of the cost to replace a 30 year old roof that got damaged.


You know it, along with the hurricane deductible
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56622 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:39 am to
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First off, your strategy of finding a roof company to claim there is damage from a hail storm and cover full replacement is part of the reason insurance prices are so high.


That's just flat our incorrect. Homeowners fal to kake valid claims all the time for roof damage. Out of fear of being dropped, out of fear of increased rates but the damage is real and happens all the time, people just don't file claims. That damage is exactly why people have homeowners insurance. When a storm causes damage and there is a policy in place to cover it you're better off filing a claim because even if you don't...the insurance company will just drop you at some point simply because they never replace the roof you paid them to insure in the first place.

quote:

You’re essentially encouraging fraud to get a new roof. Good luck getting coverage with carriers moving forward with that roof claim btw.




Not at all. I am encouraging filing valid claims for valid storm damage and getting a new policy with a new roof is not hard at all.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11064 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:59 am to
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Not at all. I am encouraging filing valid claims for valid storm damage and getting a new policy with a new roof is not hard at all.


Your quote below suggests otherwise. You even put "Storm Damage" in quotations.


quote:

Find a roofing company that can verify a hail storm in your area while you had coverage within the last two years and file a claim due to "storm damage"


Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61244 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:05 pm to
Sure has opened to writing again but they are requiring a roof be 5 years or newer.

Centauri has opened again to, I do not believe they currently have this requirement

Pretty much no standard lines companies even before IDA let you have a roof older than 15-20

Looks like you are headed for citizens unless you can somehow qualify for USAA
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:11 pm to
If you’re in Louisiana, try farmers. State Farm dropped me for the same reason 30 year roof installed in 2009.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50773 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:21 pm to
Mine is a 35 year shingle and has been on since 2007. I tried getting competitive quotes, but most said the same thing. Sticking with Travelers for now.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23312 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Mine is a 35 year shingle and has been on since 2007. I tried getting competitive quotes, but most said the same thing. Sticking with Travelers for now.



Its 35 years from basic weather, not from tropical storm force winds. That's the issue.

A new roof really isn't that expensive when they are basic. The problem is when you get all fancy with architecture they become a PITA.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11064 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:35 pm to
Right. The warranty is a 35 year warranty. It has nothing to do with how long it actually lasts from the weather in the south.

Insurance companies don’t really look at metal roofs any differently than shingle. Clay tile may be the only exception
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