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re: Nick Reiner- Diagnosed with Schizophrenia
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:37 pm to Turnblad85
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:37 pm to Turnblad85
California is about to explode here we are worrying about illegal immigrants, and we should start worrying about refugees fleeing California , theres no way to stop them, interstate commerce law, and Amazon
So far, in a lot of cases we've gotten their best
I don't think that's what's headed our way
So far, in a lot of cases we've gotten their best
I don't think that's what's headed our way
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:38 pm to Kafka
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I knew something was wrong
What tipped you Sherlock?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:41 pm to SallysHuman
Yeah. Studies show that drug abuse is a key trigger of violence for schizos. If they stay sober, their rate of violent crime is about the same as the general populace.
They did away with "types" of schizophrenia with the latest DSM. They said putting them in categories wasn't helpful for diagnosis and really doesn't matter for treatment.
But there are indeed different types. Some people have many more negative symptoms than positive symptoms. Negative symptoms are much harder to treat, but don't involve as much psychosis. The psychosis is actually the "easy" part to treat.
They did away with "types" of schizophrenia with the latest DSM. They said putting them in categories wasn't helpful for diagnosis and really doesn't matter for treatment.
But there are indeed different types. Some people have many more negative symptoms than positive symptoms. Negative symptoms are much harder to treat, but don't involve as much psychosis. The psychosis is actually the "easy" part to treat.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:43 pm to SallysHuman
quote:It is possible he doesnt have schizophrenia and is just a chronic substance abuser and almost never sober.
There's different intensities though and his was compounded by drug abuse... most recently meth if I remember correctly.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:43 pm to AUstar
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They did away with "types" of schizophrenia with the latest DSM. They said putting them in categories wasn't helpful for diagnosis and really doesn't matter for treatment.
But there are indeed different types. Some people have many more negative symptoms than positive symptoms. Negative symptoms are much harder to treat, but don't involve as much psychosis. The psychosis is actually the "easy" part to treat.
I didn't know that... thank you for my "learn something new" for today. The way you explain it makes sense!
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:45 pm to Jake88
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It is possible he doesnt have schizophrenia and is just a chronic substance abuser and almost never sober.
I don't know how it works- but considering his abuse of hard drugs predated the usual onset of schizophrenia (if TV shows are right about usual age of onset), you could be onto something.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:58 pm to SallysHuman
No doubt his liberal, nut job, lazy parents medicated, likely way over medicated, him since he was a small child.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:00 pm to SallysHuman
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Two sources with direct knowledge
His lawyer and his paralegal?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:01 pm to SallysHuman
quote:Why wasn't he committed until it was deemed he wasn't a risk to his self or others? Somebody dropped the ball.
Nick was under the care of a psychiatrist for mental illness. We're told in the month before the murders, Nick's behavior had gotten "alarming."
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:05 pm to greygoose
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Why wasn't he committed until it was deemed he wasn't a risk to his self or others? Somebody dropped the ball.
Exactly.. and it's not like his family couldn't afford inpatient care to get him stabilized.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:11 pm to SallysHuman
I always thought that schizophrenia was entirely genetic and irreversible. In fact, neither thing is true. In fact, schizophrenia is never 100% genetic but is highly correlated with childhood trauma, living in urban environments, neonatal distress, drug abuse, etc. and is also reversible with treatment. Very interesting condition that is still not well understood.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:16 pm to T1gerNate
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I always thought that schizophrenia was entirely genetic and irreversible. In fact, neither thing is true. In fact, schizophrenia is never 100% genetic but is highly correlated with childhood trauma, living in urban environments, neonatal distress, drug abuse, etc. and is also reversible with treatment. Very interesting condition that is still not well understood.
Looks like I have my rabbit trail laid out for me tonight... I never heard this before.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:38 pm to Turnblad85
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Conan O’Brien reportedly stopped guests from calling 911 on Nick Reiner at his holiday party over the weekend. Hours before Nick’s parents, Rob and Michele Singer Reiner, were found dead at their Brentwood home in Los Angeles, the couple attended the star-studded bash with their troubled son. “They got in an argument, the father and son [at the party]. It got so bad and loud [that] someone wanted to call the police to report it,” an insider told the Daily Mail Friday.
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But Conan stepped in and said, ‘It’s my house, my party, I’m not calling the police.’ He talked them out of calling the police.”
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A second source echoed those statements, noting that some guests worried that Nick needed to be placed on a psychiatric hold due to his behavior. “When the s–t was hitting the fan, somebody said, ‘We need to call the police.’ The conversation was about getting this kid put into a mental-health hold,” the source told the outlet. “It makes sense; who wants the cops showing up creating a scene? But the argument between Rob and Nick was pretty intense.” A rep for O’Brien did not immediately respond to Page Six’s request for comment.
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:07 pm to SallysHuman
my son had it and ended up committing sucide. it’s a horrible diesease/sickness and no matter what you do for them, in the end it wins. i’m tortured with his passing everyday, but am comforted knowing he’s not fighting those demons anymore.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:09 pm to ellessu
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my son had it and ended up committing sucide. it’s a horrible diesease/sickness and no matter what you do for them, in the end it wins. i’m tortured with his passing everyday, but am comforted knowing he’s not fighting those demons anymore.
I don't know what to say.. I am deeply, hugely and wholeheartedly sorry that happened to you, him and the rest of your family.
There's not a hug emoji on here.. but I'd send ya one if I could.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:14 pm to T1gerNate
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I always thought that schizophrenia was entirely genetic and irreversible. In fact, neither thing is true. In fact, schizophrenia is never 100% genetic but is highly correlated with childhood trauma, living in urban environments, neonatal distress, drug abuse, etc. and is also reversible with treatment. Very interesting condition that is still not well understood.
It is significantly heritable. It can help to think about it as inheriting a propensity for the illness. Whether or not that propensity is expressed full on is a product of environmental stresses, trauma, substance use (including marijuana especially during teenage years), and other factors causing a less stable life.
I have not seen anything regarding schizophrenia being “reversible”. That implies curable. It can be successfully treated but treatment requires ongoing medication. Without medication most individuals regularly relapse into their symptoms (psychosis, negative symptoms, etc).
When I worked on inpatient units and in corrections people with schizophrenia were usually my favorite to work with. They are often intelligent and really make you think about the way we all experience the world.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:21 pm to SallysHuman
"Our sources say"
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:34 pm to greygoose
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Why wasn't he committed until it was deemed he wasn't a risk to his self or others? Somebody dropped the ball.
It’s not easy to involuntarily commit someone in most states. You have to provide pretty significant evidence of behavior escalation and even then it’s typically a 72 hour hold unless they exhibit that psychosis on the hold.
As for OP, schizophrenia is incredibly hard to treat. You can medicate for psychosis but most of the meds used for that have really undesirable side effects that result in poor compliance. It can oftentimes take awhile to find a good combination of meds to stabilize. Schizophrenics typically need supports like targeted case management and the like to keep them on track with treatment.
There’s such a fine line between autonomy and commitment for folks with those kind of disorders.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:35 pm to Misnomer
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The conversation was about getting this kid put into a mental-health hold,” the source told the outlet.
Whoever that was probably will have some trauma too... Never doubt or be talked out of your instincts. Although, honestly, if that were me I would have done the same- not my party, not my house and all.
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