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re: NFL season starts with activism as opening sees low ratings and fan backlash

Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Just for the record The Bucs at Saints game yesterday was the highest rated week 1 NFL game on fox sports in 4 years. Biggest audience in TV since the SB.



Saints are my team, not even sure last time I missed a game till yesterday. They are also the only team I'm pissed at due to what I said yesterday in this thread, something no other team that I recall did. Saying that, I'm happy to see their ratings were good, I'm also glad they won, even had a bet placed they would win. I didn't watch, but I'm not gonna say never again. It probably won't be this year though. Saints football for years was probably 90% of my reasons for even having internet, besides paying bills, and gay porn.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41037 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:31 pm to
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You mean white people don't want to hear no lip from the black guy who's just supposed to run fast and jump high.


Even as shitty as your takes usually are, this one was especially aromatic.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29595 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:32 pm to
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The DoD has paid millions for this message to be displayed all over the NFL.





Why not? Is it the money or the fact that the DoD is a governmental organization that provides the basis for your claim?

Why does funding matter, and how do we know NYPD/FDNY have never funded something like that as a recruiting tool? I don't know this for certain but I would think they almost certainly have.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122195 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:33 pm to
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That's your own problem then. I was merely stating the NFL has pushed non football related political messages for a long time. It's only a problem now that they pushed one you don't like.




That's the problem in general and not just when it comes to the nfl and sports. The second there is something that supports or acknowledges something they don't agree with, they take their ball and go home.

Athletes using their platform through sports to take a stance for or against something isn't anything new at all.

People support our rights as an American up to the point when people use those rights to show support they don't agree with.

There are several people I know, over the past several years, who have stopped talking to a friend or family member because they have two different political opinions. I've never seen people allow politics to impact their life like people are doing today.

People need to get a grip an add some perspective in their life.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:34 pm to
And why should I should give a rats arse about this?
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26722 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:38 pm to
You cared enough to reply, so
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110967 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:39 pm to
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That's the problem in general and not just when it comes to the nfl and sports. The second there is something that supports or acknowledges something they don't agree with, they take their ball and go home.

Athletes using their platform through sports to take a stance for or against something isn't anything new at all.

People support our rights as an American up to the point when people use those rights to show support they don't agree with.



Why do so many people conflate the notion of "rights" and what it means to deny them (which nobody is doing, or seemingly even advocating as I can see)?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59246 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:47 pm to
Nobody was even talking about peoples rights to free speech until chris word vomited that post up
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:48 pm to
It is a great point. On the other hand do you think the NFL is actively recruiting SJWs to watch more games? I mean as old people die off they need new viewership. The young people are more likely to be SJW types.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:52 pm to
If you lost interest in the NFL a long time ago then why are you even worried about ratings. It clearly is bothering you.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110967 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:54 pm to
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It is a great point. On the other hand do you think the NFL is actively recruiting SJWs to watch more games? I mean as old people die off they need new viewership. The young people are more likely to be SJW types.



To me, it's odd to think taking on a particular political stance would create sustaining interest in an otherwise normally apolitical entertainment product like sports that wouldn't otherwise exist, but for that political stance.

I'm not outright saying you're wrong. It's just a strange notion to me, though.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:57 pm to
When did I say I was worried about their ratings? I could give two shits. I am slowly moving that way with CFB too. I only got into this thread when that THO3 person made it sound like it was targeted only at the black athletes.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59246 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:57 pm to
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On the other hand do you think the NFL is actively recruiting SJWs to watch more games? I mean as old people die off they need new viewership. The young people are more likely to be SJW types.


I think they are catering to the smallest, but loudest person in the room and are slowly starting to realize that. CBS communicating internally to it's game crews to lay off social justice issues pretty much confirms that. Social justice warriors are just that, they don't care about football and never will. The amount of new football fans because of it's current focus on social justice has to extremely small (if it exists at all).
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:58 pm to
It is a strange notion to me that someone would stop watching the NFL because of a specific person or players political views that is a 30 second video clip at most.

Nobody stopped watching the Patriots when they were caught cheating
Baseball fans didn't stop watching when signs were being stolen. These are true ethical violations of the sport by an entire team. But muh someone is kneeling I'm outraged and never gonna watch again.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 3:03 pm to
Would the NFL reversing their stance bring these sidewalk fans back?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110967 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 3:04 pm to
So, are you suggesting only one of these phenomenons is actually occuring, both, or none?
Posted by Johnnie10lb
Ville Platte
Member since Nov 2014
321 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 3:04 pm to
I’m out. Can’t see me going back. NFLNBA.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26722 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 3:09 pm to
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These are true ethical violations of the sport by an entire team. But muh someone is kneeling I'm outraged and never gonna watch again.



Perhaps it may be because every time the NFL comes out for a cause it comes off as disingenuous, and we've reached a tipping point where people are just tired of it.

I used to watch every NFL game on TV, but they've been slowly losing my interest for years; to where I would only watch Saints games. I honestly forgot that the game was on yesterday until the wife asked me why I wasn't watching.

Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59246 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 3:10 pm to
Not sure how you reverse a stance on anti racism but I'm sure some fans are gone forever while some will watch if they are told it's been toned down. In my opinion, aside from a few outliers, if this has made you "boycott" the NFL then you likely weren't a very big fan from the start.

I don't care for most of the social justice crusades but it really wasn't that hard to ignore it. Not like I'm losing sleep over the NFL and it's opinions.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 3:11 pm to
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It is a strange notion to me that someone would stop watching the NFL because of a specific person or players political views that is a 30 second video clip at most.






How many million dollars did they give to BLM?

which is Marxist and advocates that the country be MArxist
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