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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:58 pm to TH03
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Y'all made the comparison not me. I listed another political message displayed by the NFL in the past.
I made no such comparison and I quoted you.
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And what NFL team rioted yesterday?
Oh dear.
NFL>>>>>>>Supports Salute to service for the military>>>>>they don't riot
NFL>>>>supports blm>>>>>>>they do riot
Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:59 pm to Janky
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I made no such comparison and I quoted you
Can you point out where I made a comparison? Other than saying they're both political moves by the NFL?
You compared them here while trying to insult me.
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Comparing service member to a group of rioters is just pathetic even for you.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:02 pm to TH03
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Y'all never had issues with salute to service or other political messages. Why this one?
I took this as a comparison. One vs. the other.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:03 pm to TH03
Military presentations by the NFL isn’t a political stance.
In regards to the NFL, it is an economic one, as you already pointed out.
There is no inherently political message when it comes to the presentations.
You could argue a “nationalistic” message, and Scruffy would agree, but not sure how it would be construed as “political”, unless you believe the base concept of the military and any/all viewpoints pertaining to it are political, no matter the context.
Do you believe that anything ever said, performed, or proclaimed by any government entity is a “political message”?
Also, like you said, the NFL is paid to do it.
There is no economic driver for the BLM message. It is STRICTLY political.
In regards to the NFL, it is an economic one, as you already pointed out.
There is no inherently political message when it comes to the presentations.
You could argue a “nationalistic” message, and Scruffy would agree, but not sure how it would be construed as “political”, unless you believe the base concept of the military and any/all viewpoints pertaining to it are political, no matter the context.
Do you believe that anything ever said, performed, or proclaimed by any government entity is a “political message”?
Also, like you said, the NFL is paid to do it.
There is no economic driver for the BLM message. It is STRICTLY political.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:04 pm to Janky
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Y'all never had issues with salute to service or other political messages. Why this one?
I took this as a comparison. One vs. the other.
Love how he's backtracking on the notion, as if it was somehow supposed to be seen as anything else.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:05 pm to yatesdog38
Go back to the PGA tour being communist point, I liked where that was going
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:07 pm to TH03
Unlike BLM, the military is not advocating for any particular policy position. So the definition of "political" you are trying to use is entirely different.
You could take your line of argument and say that any honoring of NYPD/FDNY at sporting events on 9/11 is political, because they are also government entities.
I do enjoy your attempts at rationalizing your intentionally silly comparison though.
You could take your line of argument and say that any honoring of NYPD/FDNY at sporting events on 9/11 is political, because they are also government entities.
I do enjoy your attempts at rationalizing your intentionally silly comparison though.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:07 pm to Scruffy
FWIW, the weekly stand up if you've been in the service segment in the dome while playing proud to be an american over the speakers has always made me cringe
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:10 pm to Ed Osteen
quote:Sure.
FWIW, the weekly stand up if you've been in the service segment in the dome while playing proud to be an american over the speakers has always made me cringe
Most of those situations are incredibly cringeworthy, and Scruffy would bet large sums that a big percentage of military vets feel the same way.
Scruffy’s stance is in regards to the defining of any military-related events/programs as “political messages”, which he disagrees with that stance.
And like he said, most are incredibly cringeworthy.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:11 pm to windshieldman
Just for the record The Bucs at Saints game yesterday was the highest rated week 1 NFL game on fox sports in 4 years. Biggest audience in TV since the SB.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:12 pm to Scruffy
oh I agree, wasn't really directed at you. Just responded to the last post
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:16 pm to Ed Osteen
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oh I agree, wasn't really directed at you. Just responded to the last post
Not to the extent seen with the military, but the whole “healthcare hero” bullshite is incredibly annoying to the VAST majority of medical personnel, and Scruffy bets that many vets hold the same views.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:18 pm to Janky
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I took this as a comparison. One vs. the other
That's your own problem then. I was merely stating the NFL has pushed non football related political messages for a long time. It's only a problem now that they pushed one you don't like.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:18 pm to Scruffy
But the Soldier Salute at the box is awesome.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:19 pm to Lou Pai
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You could take your line of argument and say that any honoring of NYPD/FDNY at sporting events on 9/11 is political, because they are also government entities.
That isn't my logic though.
I've been clear on it. The DoD has paid millions for this message to be displayed all over the NFL.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:20 pm to TH03
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That's your own problem then.
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It's only a problem now that they pushed one you don't like.
Dude, I haven't watched NFL football in several years. I lost interest a long time ago.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:22 pm to TH03
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The DoD has paid millions for this message to be displayed all over the NFL.
And the NFL has already paid over 100 million to social justice groups to have the privilege of having their messages displayed all over the NFL.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:26 pm to TH03
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The DoD paying to send a certain message is political. The NFL didn't do this out if the goodness of their heart. They did it for some $$$. Just like painting end racism on end zones.
Out of curiosity, who paid them money to paint "end racism" in the end zones?
Posted on 9/14/20 at 2:28 pm to goofball
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If more people are at home due to government forced Covid shut down and economic sanctions.....shouldn’t TV ratings be through the roof?
Less advertising leading up to the game because of uncertainty
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