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re: New Toyota Tundras only have V6 engines now? Tacomas only have 4 cyclinders?

Posted on 1/6/25 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by FIREAWAY
Member since Jul 2022
325 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 2:45 pm to
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Since when did Toyota start doing this? Was looking at new Tundras and the only have the option for a V6 engine. Tacomas only have the option for 4 cyclinder engines?? Pretty disappointing. What vehicles of theirs do they install V8's in at the moment?


maybe get an f250 or something
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2182 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:19 pm to
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bullshite. There is no replacement for displacement.


I use to be you. Until I test drove a 3.5 ecoboost. fastest and most powerful truck I have ever owned.

I have a 3.0 Duramax in my new truck and couldn't be happier. I get 35mpg on road trips and it will pull anything i need to pull with it. Diesel should be the future.
Posted by TigerRoyale
Zwolle
Member since Oct 2023
676 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:37 pm to
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GM - lots of issues.


I don't have a lot of miles on mine yet but so far it's very impressive. Everyone loves the V8 sound, the 2.7 engine has this turbo noise that's pretty cool. It could stand a touch more aggressive exhaust sound.

The towing ability blew me away.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32602 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:24 pm to
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Are there issues with the 4 cylinder?



Pretty rare. Honestly considering how many trucks GM sells, they really don't have too many major issues. The 2.7L is pushed hard to fleets. It's a little overmatched for the full sized trucks that tow regularly, but they are pretty good for the standard 2wd work trucks.

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I’d rather have a v8 but I wasn’t going to buy a GM or a Ford.


Your loss....nothing is perfect, but I'd take the GM or Ford gas V8s over the Tundra motor any day of the week. It's MUCH cheaper to fix lifters or cam phasers if they break out of warranty (and that's still unlikely) than it is to replace those turbos in the Tundra.

And there are not one but two turbos on that Tundra. Both buried way back by the firewall. Two major points of failure that are near impossible to reach.

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GM - lots of issues.


They also sell about a million full sized trucks and SUVs every year - most of them with the 5.3L V8. For every one you hear about having a problem, there are probably 150 of them out there that are working flawlessly.

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Ford - spent 4 times what they expected on warranty issues with their truck in the second quarter of this year and haven’t fixed their issues. Also recalled their 2.7liter turbo engines for a replacement.


I'd take the Ford 2.7L V6 over the Tundra 3.4L Turbo and wouldn't think twice about it. I'd take the 5.0L V8 from Ford or the 5.3L V8 from Chevrolet over any forced induction engine.




Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2752 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:30 pm to
I have a 23 Tundra Hybrid and it's pretty bad arse. Way more power and torque than my 2017 has and it gets about 6-8 miles more per gallon.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2752 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Toyota destroying their truck brand


Yet, they've sold more 2024's than any other year.
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3419 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:46 pm to
I'm pretty sure 8-cyl is literally the only thing Ford does well on.

But for what the OP is talking about a 4 cylinder for any type of truck is a cardinal sin. A 6 cylinder isn't great but if you live in a city you can get by.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2752 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:54 pm to
A lot of bad info on the recall being reported on here. The recall is for non hybrid engines manufactured up until February of 2023, so it includes about half the 23's built as well as the 22's. Before the recall was officially announced, they were replacing the short block only which was a crazy solution. Since the recall has been announced, Toyota has said each recalled engine will be replaced with a complete longblock with new turbos already installed. The new engines will carry one extra year of warranty and 100,000 total miles.

It is speculated that the hybrids, along with the Sequoia models will be added to the list once the initial 100,000 recalled engines have been replaced. There are some reports of a few 2024's that have had engine failure, but they don't believe those to be affected by the machine debris associated with the recall.

The longblock option is currently around 13-15 hours to complete, but after dealers get experience with them will be cut down to just one day.

I've had no problems with my 2023 and currently have 50,000 miles on it. I've owned 4 other Tundras, each one lasting well over 250,000 miles. My 2017 did have the Cam cradle gasket seal leak. A repair that was $3800. It is very common on the 2nd gen and 2.5 gen Tundras. The V8's were one of the best vehicles Toyota ever produced, but they weren't bulletproof.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 6:01 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130115 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:59 pm to
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once had a 1978 F-150 Ranger Explore (Said all that on the truck)

This thread is reminding what a Dumbass I was to get rid of it.


When I retire next year I'm going to find me a 70's era blazer or bronco and restore it and drive it as my daily driver.
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
1830 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 6:07 pm to
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but I'd take the GM or Ford gas V8s over the Tundra motor any day of the week.

Say Baw….its funny that you think Ford is a good example of reliability. Toyota been building reliable turbo engines for DECADES now. Unlike Ferd & GM, Toyota improves their designs.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:03 pm to
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GM - lots of issues.


They also sell about a million full sized trucks and SUVs every year - most of them with the 5.3L V8. For every one you hear about having a problem, there are probably 150 of them out there that are working flawlessly.



Bingo
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14520 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:30 am to
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What once was cool is now lame and gay.


Do you mean those rectangular exhaust ports?

I always thought those Lamborghini quad exhausts looked silly on a truck.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32602 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:44 am to
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A 6 cylinder isn't great but if you live in a city you can get by.


I think the hurricane I-6 from Ram could eventually be a great engine. It has not had enough time to prove itself yet.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32602 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:45 am to
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Toyota been building reliable turbo engines for DECADES now.


Is that why they are recalling and replacing all of their Tundra motors?
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3298 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:13 am to
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I'm pretty sure 8-cyl is literally the only thing Ford does well on.


I really like their V8, but they've dealt with most of the teething issues with those turbo V6 motors.

Toyota has clearly not. I don't ever remember Ford, GM, or Ram having fairly widespread bottom end issues like the new Tundras have.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 7:14 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:40 am to
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The new frickin Land Cruiser only has a 4cyl


They aren't importing many of them.

Probably because people will wonder why they are basically a 4Runner.
Posted by JEC119
Member since Apr 2024
1218 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 4:39 pm to
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When I retire next year I'm going to find me a 70's era blazer or bronco and restore it and drive it as my daily driver.


My friends Dad in the early 90s acquired a 1960s bronco… I think it was 1967. Everything was stock and in mint condition. It turned out to be rare because the fenders had not been cut out to fit bigger tires. He sold it about 5 years ago and the guy who brought it said it’s very hard to find the old ones that haven’t had the fender/ wheel wells cut for bigger tires.

So if you look, look for that
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2412 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 5:21 pm to
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There are some reports of a few 2024's that have had engine failure, but they don't believe those to be affected by the machine debris associated with the recall.


My impression is that the 2024’s affected may be early in the model year. The Car Care Nut pointed out there was a part number change during the 2024 model year that was in the engine area impacted.
I think that was one of the reasons the GX was delayed. Although from a different engine line than the Tundra, Toyota probably wanted to make sure it was fixed.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14997 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 5:25 pm to
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They aren't importing many of them.

Probably because people will wonder why they are basically a 4Runner.

It's a really different vehicle than the old LC. It's really a Prado and on the same chassis as the GX. The only way to get full size LC functionality anymore is to get the new LX. The new LC is 800ish lbs lighter than the old version and smaller.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3644 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 5:26 pm to
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A 21 Land Cruiser with 60k miles is going for more than those new V4 land cruisers.

I really liked the new GX too but they put a turbo V6 in it. I guess that’s the same engine as the new tundra


It's not really a Land Cruiser, at least not in the sense of what that used to mean. There is still a "real' Land Cruiser--the 300; they just aren't selling it in the US. And even that doesn't come with a V8 anymore.
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