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re: New (to me) hostile architecture for medians / neutral ground?

Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:15 am to
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Imagine hitting one of those with your car.

I try to remain on the roadway while driving.
Protip: Not taking a U-turn over the median will extend the life of your tires.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:23 am to
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Someone in the thread mentioned this could break an ankle and cause the city a lawsuit. Hope this doesn't get taken down over a lawsuit. We need more of this.
Good argument for qualified immunity.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:32 am to
This is an interesting area of design. CPTED - Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design.
A lot of those ideas can be annoying, but work very well at solving the larger issues.
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:34 pm to
In my previous gig I used to teach Crime Prevention and Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design. I'm a huge fan of hostile vegetation. Thorny bushes will do wonders in keeping the homeless away from your stuff.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:43 pm to
They could use some of that at US90 and 9th street in Pensacola where the street preachers get so thick in the median they take to pushing one another into lanes of moving traffic...
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:47 pm to
Thank god we are finding ways to make the lives of the homeless and the insane and drug addicted even more miserable than they would be otherwise. Especially the veterans among them...imagine a veteran being homeless. What a loser class, homeless veterans. It really is kind of a turn on sexually to imagine making miserable people even more miserable, especially after so many of them served their country...gotta love that....you can tell it turns folks on by the gleeful manner in which they discuss their fantasies of making people miserable...
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:48 pm to
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After: I can’t find any updated pics online but there are areas all over Nola that used this type landscape in the beautification projects leading up to the Super Bowl. The pan-handling stopped immediately.


They got that idea from Jefferson Parish. They did that along the Westbank Expressway a couple of years ago. It definitely works..
Posted by roberma
Punta Gorda, FL
Member since Jul 2009
281 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:53 pm to
I was in Portland, OR recently and noticed several different methods of hostile architecture. They have put horse troughs on the sidewalks and made flower beds to prevent tents. Large metal bars on the benches and signs that made me LOL. These sidewalks are for moving/walking and no camping - or something to that effect. Portland has banned "urban camping" and I was shocked at the difference between 2024 and 2019 visit.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:53 pm to
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What a loser class, homeless veterans.

There's not a lot of John Rambo's out there. Stop playing for sympathy. These are gutter punk losers, who most likely chose the street because of their doper lifestyle.

I'm more concerned about them making me miserable by panhandling at the stoplight. Sorry / not sorry.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:57 pm to
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There's not a lot of John Rambo's out there. Stop playing for sympathy. These are gutter punk losers, who most likely chose the street because of their doper lifestyle.

I'm more concerned about them making me miserable by panhandling at the stoplight. Sorry / not sorry.



Hell I agree wholeheartedly. Its even worse when they are veterans....can't be more of a loser than veteran and a homeless person....thats a double strike against being a winner by any measure. I can't think of a thing in the world that would be too harsh to do to someone who does not live inside a building and act like others expect them to act...there is NO room for that sort of individuality in society....and this is especially true of someone who served their country. The thought that we allow such people to fight and die for this great nation is disgusting....
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12395 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:04 pm to
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AwgustaDawg

You can always let them stay at your place. Ask 4cubbies for details, because she has personal experience in this arena.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:13 pm to
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AwgustaDawg


"Some of these people are veterans therefore we should all put up with eveyrthing that comes with mass homelessness"

I'm so fricking glad people with your useless and destructive ideology were tossed out of office recently.

There are literally thousands of veteran charities nationwide, there's the VA, and tons of other resources for veterans who want help. I would encourage all of them to take advantage.

Because some are veterans that does mean that we should be forced to live with and among the crime, destruction, disease, drugs, and general mayhem that mass homelessness brings with it. But if you are so inclined I 100% encourage you to take your terrible ideas about how things should be and move to LA, Portland, etc...take your pick. Your guy Newsome's "10 year plan to end homelessness" just had its 20 year anniversary and homelessness in his state has never been worse. But yes, more of the poison that leads to this problem is definitely the cure.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 2:16 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:14 pm to
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AwgustaDawg

You can always let them stay at your place. Ask 4cubbies for details, because she has personal experience in this arena.


Why, when I am stating unequivocally that we can't come up with enough hardships to place on someone who decides not to live the way you choose for them, would I let them into my comfortable suburban home? frick that....I like the idea of them, especially the veterans among them, walking around until they drop dead of disease and malnutrition and dehydration....and none of that is bad enough for a person who chooses t forego living indoors like you and I think they should....that sort of individuality is not to be tolerated in polite society...everyone MUST toe the line and behave in exactly the same manner and think the same was as everyone else or they should be forced to suffer all manner of ill consequences. Especially when they are a veteran and have had every opportunity in the world to make something of themselves only to let a little stress and possibly some physical disabilities keep them from conforming to what you and I think they should conform to...
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12395 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:22 pm to
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AwgustaDawg

I have never met a hardcore leftist that wasn't mentally ill.
You are no exception to this rule.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10209 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:25 pm to
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place on someone who decides not to live the way you choose

You know the Army literally teaches you to be homeless, right?

Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
11352 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:26 pm to
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"Some of these people are veterans therefore we should all put up with eveyrthing that comes with mass homelessness"

I'm so fricking glad people with your useless and destructive ideology were tossed out of office recently.

There are literally thousands of veteran charities nationwide, there's the VA, and tons of other resources for veterans who want help. I would encourage all of them to take advantage.

Because some are veterans that does mean that we should be forced to live with and among the crime, destruction, disease, drugs, and general mayhem that mass homelessness brings with it. But if you are so inclined I 100% encourage you to take your terrible ideas about how things should be and move to LA, Portland, etc...take your pick. Your guy Newsome's "10 year plan to end homelessness" just had its 20 year anniversary and homelessness in his state has never been worse. But yes, more of the poison that leads to this problem is definitely the cure.


You have me mistaken for someone who does not despise homeless people, especially homeless veterans. The fact that people have the unmitigated gall to refuse to live inside a building like you and I expect them to is the worst thing to ever happen to mankind. Its especially egregious when it is a veteran who we allowed to serve our nation who then turns around and thumbs their nose at conventional society despite being treated like royalty. No my friend I am firmly of the opinion that rounding up homeless people, especially homeless veterans and children, and marching them off a cliff, is too good for them....they should suffer far worse a fate than that so as to provide an example to others thinking of going into that lifestyle. Never mind the "mental illness: BS, the same applies to someone who is homeless because of a physical ailment....get cancer and lose your home? frick you you homeless prick, no lying on a bus stop bench you loser.....thats the idea. Thats the stuff that great societies are made of, not all of this "its a shame veterans are homeless" gay shite....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:28 pm to
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I have never met a hardcore leftist that wasn't mentally ill.
You are no exception to this rule.



Its a hard core leftist stand to state, without reserve, that homeless veterans are the lowest form of scum on the planet??? If so then those frickers who design those bus benches are at least hard core leftist adjacent and anyone who admires their work is also...
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
11352 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:29 pm to
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You know the Army literally teaches you to be homeless, right?



So soldiers are only meant to sleep outdoors when it is convenient for the rest of us. When they choose to do it on their own without our permission they have crossed the line and should be made to suffer all manner of ill shite until they are able to conform to societies expectations or die. Their choice.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7172 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:31 pm to
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