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re: New Orleans paying 16 million to “re home” homeless for 90 days for Super Bowl

Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:18 am to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16658 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:18 am to
quote:

So not a final solution?

What do you have in mind?

200 of them will be confined in a warehouse for 90 days. Opportunity knocks.

Something with the food? “Medical” care?
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56002 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:37 am to
A brick of .22s and a bonfire is all they need.

ETA and a front end loader
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 8:38 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16658 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:45 am to
quote:

A better idea would be to have famous New Orleans chefs cook them up and feed them to the tourist in town for the game. Problem solved! Might even make a few bucks at the same time.


No expensive chefs are needed. We already have recipes from the make nutria rat the next blackened redfish era. The taste and texture is probably similar.

No need to even get tourists involved. Over 90 days, some “attrition” of the 200 campers is probably expected and will go unnoticed.

The yield from a deer is probably a good baseline to estimate that roughly half of a deer’s weight is usable meat. The average weight of a homeless person is about 150 pounds by my estimate. If the average homeless person consumes 8 oz of meat per day, 100 pounds of meat per day will be needed for those 200 resident days.

I’m starting to think it needs to be heavily supplemented with Sysco meat at first. But maybe Sysco will see how popular this potential new product becomes. Who is going to notice the difference in chili meat, especially if the protein is supplemented with beans like what poor people use in their chili when they don’t give a shite about the end product.

Sysco might even find an interest in constructing homeless farms so that it can become an even more profitable industry than it already is.

Opportunity knocks. It would be a violation of my parole if I get caught up in this, but New Orleans has no shortage of highly polished evil minds to capitalize on this opportunity. Things that are better for civilization in the long term should not be taken off the table (see what I did there?).
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35099 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:47 am to
shite like this should cause a taxpayer revolt.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29633 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:55 am to
How much are they paying the teenage car jackers to stay at home ?
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
6896 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:57 am to
Are you ok with the homelessness problem in New Orleans? And allowing them to damage the city's marketability just with their visible presence?

If no, then this is what the first step to addressing it looks like.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Right?
Like I said earlier, the only alternatives are shipping them and creating problems for others, or killing them outright.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 8:59 am
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5193 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:57 am to
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This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 9:36 pm
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2758 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:02 am to
Contract for Landry's temporary homeless shelter went to politically connected firm

quote:

The 200-bed “Transitional Center,” as the state refers to it, will be open for at least two months. Landry’s administration promises it will provide three meals a day, basic medical care and support for finding housing — all of which comes at a high cost to Louisiana taxpayers. According to a draft plan submitted by the state’s contractor, The Workforce Group, 60 days of shelter operations will cost the state $11.4 million. An optional 30-day extension will bring that price tag up to $16 million, double the city’s ask.

The higher price points in The Workforce Group’s contract has placed its relationship with state leaders past and present under a microscope


Need or not, clearly a big mark-up on the taxpayers dime. There was a thread yesterday about the Houston Housing Authority spending an extra 10K on meals and entertainment and the such, that pales in comparison to this, but its ok because this is the private sector, right?
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14208 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:04 am to
Certainly not Landry fleecing taxpayers again. Color me shocked.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13253 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:07 am to
I get the idea but let’s think long term.

If your homeless you fall under 4 big categories…
1. Unemployed lost your home.
2. Drugs or alcohol addiction
3. Mental illness
4. I’ll add runaway.

When they round them up will the city help any of these problems? No.
Take the 16 million sit down with each one and figure which category they fall under.
If its work, get them showered and a clean suit see what skills they have (anyone can be a laborer) .
Addiction, rehab 90 days with the ability to get a job once they are done.
Mental illness, open a hospital to get them help and the illness under control. This would solve a lot of the homeless population. I get some don’t want help but some need a chance.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47810 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:10 am to
sorry but homeless frickheads shouldnt be able to live on the street anyway. get the frick out of the city.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:11 am to
quote:

If your homeless you fall under 4 big categories…
1. Unemployed lost your home.
2. Drugs or alcohol addiction
3. Mental illness
4. I’ll add runaway.

When they round them up will the city help any of these problems? No.
Take the 16 million sit down with each one and figure which category they fall under.
If its work, get them showered and a clean suit see what skills they have (anyone can be a laborer) .
Addiction, rehab 90 days with the ability to get a job once they are done.
Mental illness, open a hospital to get them help and the illness under control. This would solve a lot of the homeless population. I get some don’t want help but some need a chance.


The issue is that it is way more than "some" that don't want the help. There are already plenty of resources available to those that both need and want the help to get them off the street and back on their feet. The rest you may as well light money on fire trying to do anything for them.
Posted by adam2000
Central
Member since Sep 2016
1170 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:15 am to
Just put them in mental hospitals.
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
6896 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:22 am to
Nothing eye-popping in that rate structure, competitive for the industry and in line on all labor categories. The article quotes the comparable pay rates for full-time employees, but does not consider the difficulty in hastily staffing such a thing on a temporary basis and the costs associated with that. It is highly undesirable work.

Also, standing up a shelter this large that is not particularly suited and doing it at an accelerated pace is a big and expensive ask.

The awarded firm will have to front all of the cash for G&A, setup, and wages inevitably incurring them a massive amount of interest expense. It will take GOHSEP months to approve and for the state to pay these invoices, if not more than a year.

My educated guess is that the rates likely yield a 30-35% gross margin, and end-of-the-day profit margin for the firm will be in the 10% range once all overheads are absorbed.

So partial information at best. The writer linking this award to the Lemoine's higher involvement with the GOP is also a massive stretch and of course politically motivated.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37086 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:24 am to
I wonder how many bids were considered.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4531 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:32 am to
quote:

They only want to not look like a total shithole for a very short period of time.





Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
6896 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:36 am to
Probably not very many, as there are a very small number of local firms who are both interested and capable of pulling this off.

It sounds like WFG has won prime position likely due to their experience, my guess is that they will have to sub out some of it in order to cover all of these positions timely.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5247 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:39 am to
Agree. Taxpayers should not be on the hook for this. We shouldn’t have to prop up a society who chose this lifestyle. Bleeding hearts who become infuriated at the word homeless vs unhoused should feel free to take some in. This goes for all of society.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131607 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:40 am to
Homeless need to be dumped in the east

If they come back downtown just bring them to the east again
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3847 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:45 am to
Build a shelter that's mostly cover for them and leave it because that's no different or dangerous than camping under a damn interstate
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