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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban

Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:54 pm to
I love how everyone runs here to talk about the health benefits, yet many of you will be stuffing your faces with fast food this weekend and that's OK. And I'm not a smoker I simply do not agree with cash stopped cities making poor financial decisions due to public pressure. Losing smoking in Harrah alone will cost the state millions because the regulars will not be walking blocks to go outside and then have to reenter. Save your for every one smoker gains five nonsmokers that's just bs.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

not my side

i don't think this applies to the side of anyone arguing the same as me in this thread, either



So regulate nothing? No laws in America? Surely you think some laws are justifiable.

Nothing is ever that black and white.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50408 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:56 pm to
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Oh but wait...its a PRIVATE business they can serve all the rat they want.


If people know that there's rat in their food, then sure.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86128 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:57 pm to
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Private property? Its a business Holmes. You want the FDA to keep making sure your favorite restaurant isn't serving you rat meat?



(not sure if serious, but even more if you are)
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:57 pm to
i havent eaten fast food in 8 years
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

Private property? Its a business Holmes.

yeah unless that business is owned by the state, it's private property

quote:

You want the FDA to keep making sure your favorite restaurant isn't serving you rat meat?

i don't believe in the FDA, either

i don't really worry about being served rat meat b/c a business that did would not last long. the market would sort that out quickly

especially today

quote:

Oh but wait...its a PRIVATE business they can serve all the rat they want.

if people want to eat rat feel free
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89131 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:57 pm to
When eating fast food makes someone else sick, your post will have some kind of merit.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:58 pm to
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Losing smoking in Harrah alone will cost the state millions


Are you serious? Do you know how many people avoid smoking establishments on purpose? Since the majority of Americans do not smoke i would say they will gain more than they lose. I might actually go to harrahs now.
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3769 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:59 pm to
Fast food causes you to be fat, fat people cost insurance companies more money. Thus fat people increase my premiums. Thanks for playing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:00 pm to
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Surely you think some laws are justifiable.

i certainly believe in laws that exist to protect private property and crimes against the person of others

after that you have to convince me, but i can be swayed if you argue that a law creating a public good would lower transaction costs for trade, thus protecting and facilitating more free trade amongst free persons (roads may fall into this)

our country was formed by tobacco farming. we've smoked inside well before we formed a state. we're getting on just fine without need of regulation in that area
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89131 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:00 pm to
And that makes you directky sick how? Swing and a miss champ.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:00 pm to
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If people know that there's rat in their food, then sure.

i was about to start dropping demolition man references, but it was too obvious after this one
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:01 pm to
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When you say both sides, you mean smokers vs non-smokers? Or government vs. people? Or something else?




im talking about both.


because you agree with a law, does that mean "it's something that you like"?


I mean there are tons of laws in America.


The smoking one for instance. Say you disagree with the smoking ban. These people (liars) are trying to portray that a business owner should have to follow no rules or regulations. I mean that is basically what they are telling us in this thread. "It should be there choice!"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:01 pm to
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Are you serious? Do you know how many people avoid smoking establishments on purpose?

then why aren't non-smoking places dominating the market? if the dominant market force is non-smoking bars, they should be winning

why is a law necessary?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:02 pm to
quote:


Are you serious? Do you know how many people avoid smoking establishments on purpose? Since the majority of Americans do not smoke i would say they will gain more than they lose. I might actually go to harrahs now.



i see youre polluting other boards with your bullshite


oh youre going to go gamble now just because there isnt smoking in the place? gtfo

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

our country was formed by tobacco farming. we've smoked inside well before we formed a state. we're getting on just fine without need of regulation in that area




and restaurants & other business have proven they can get along just fine without it. This isnt the 1800s bro.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:04 pm to
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and restaurants & other business have proven they can get along just fine without it.

well if non-smoking bars are so popular, why aren't they winning the war of ideas in the market?

why is government necessary to guide their idea to a victory?
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

SlowFlowPro


I don't know if you're an anarchist or another republican pretending to be conservative, but laws are necessary.

You seem pretty up in arms about this smoking stuff. Are you equally as vocal about laws prohibiting people from buying alcohol on Sunday in basically EVERY red state in America?
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 7:05 pm
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3769 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

then why aren't non-smoking places dominating the market? if the dominant market force is non-smoking bars, they should be winning why is a law necessary?


This is not the place for logical questions. This is a place to tote the party line.its healthy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:05 pm to
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I don't know if you're an anarchist or a another republican pretending to be conservative,

what in the frick

quote:

but laws are necessary.

the vast majority of them are not. there was a vast layer of excrement calling itself a law prior to this one...and it's adding to the pile

quote:

You seem pretty up in arms about this smoking stuff. Are you equally as vocal about laws prohibiting people from buying alcohol on Sunday in basically EVERY red state in America?

uh yeah. i'm actually thinking of using it as a platform to push libertarian ideology locally to grow my following
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