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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:39 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:39 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I would agree with you on the weed that was available to our parents.
The bigger point is they are starting to realize the harmlessness of weed.
What is available now is a lot more potent, thanks to modern science and plant manipulation via cross pollination.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:39 pm to Lester Earl
Lester, I don't smoke and think it's a disgusting habit. I also don't like being around it, just like you.
I choose to go to smoke free bars, like the pelican house.
When I do go to a smoker friendly bar with friends who want to, I don't complain because no one there is doing anything they arent allowed to do.
I choose to go to smoke free bars, like the pelican house.
When I do go to a smoker friendly bar with friends who want to, I don't complain because no one there is doing anything they arent allowed to do.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:39 pm to junkfunky
quote:
95% of Americans aren't gay, to hell with gay marriage.
80% of Americans aren't black, we should still be able to own them as slaves.
oh, this again.
explain to me how either of these affect public health.
Im pro gay marriage. And i'm certainly not racist.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:39 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
You're defending both, whether you realize it or not.
no
i'm defending the rights of the business owner and the market
if the market dictates that most bars are smoking, then that is what it is. i don't have to defend reality
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:40 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
explain to me how either of these affect public health.
if you are arguing that smoking is bad bc it's unhealthy, then why not support an outright ban?
and why stop at smoking?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:41 pm to Lester Earl
#1 cause of death for black men age 30-50 is heart disease. (CDC Data)
Fried food greatly increases the chance and severity of heart disease. (studies too numerous to mention)
by law, black men age 30-50 should not be allowed to buy or consume fried chicken since it a detriment to their health.
Fried food greatly increases the chance and severity of heart disease. (studies too numerous to mention)
by law, black men age 30-50 should not be allowed to buy or consume fried chicken since it a detriment to their health.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:41 pm to rlebl39
quote:
When I do go to a smoker friendly bar with friends who want to, I don't complain because no one there is doing anything they arent allowed to do.
I don't complain either. Really its the next morning when i feel the worse. But it sure is going to be nice to not have to worry about that now. Business owners(those that are even upset by it) are going to get over it very quickly. A lot of bars were going that route anyway.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
, then why not support an outright ban?
where do i sign up?
Wont happen though. Too much money involved.
quote:
and why stop at smoking?
again, my views are not all encompassing. Every topic is different. Maybe there are other things we should look into. IDK, id have to be presented with it before I state my opinion.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:46 pm to Rebel
quote:
by law, black men age 30-50 should not be allowed to buy or consume fried chicken since it a detriment to their health.
It's their health, not mine.
2nd hand smoke affects my health. A black person eating fried chicken doesn't.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:46 pm to Lester Earl
We can agree on that. From the non smokers perspective it is going to be nice to not smell like smoke the next day, and I'll like that.
What I do not like is government forcing rules on private owners. Look beyond just smoking, if the government can do this to smoking, they can do it to anything.
ETA: Also the next rule (whatever it may be) might not just be in businesses, it could be in private residences.
What I do not like is government forcing rules on private owners. Look beyond just smoking, if the government can do this to smoking, they can do it to anything.
ETA: Also the next rule (whatever it may be) might not just be in businesses, it could be in private residences.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:47 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
explain to me how either of these affect public health.
Are you arguing to get rid of smoke so someone can poison themselves without getting second hand poison?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:50 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Only if you allow yourself to be in its presence. We're discussing private businesses, not public places
2nd hand smoke affects my health.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:50 pm to rlebl39
quote:
Look beyond just smoking, if the government can do this to smoking, they can do it to anything.
as a former small business owner, they already do. I think they are getting this one right, though..
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:52 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
Only if you allow yourself to be in its presence. We're discussing private businesses, not public places
oh damn! well forget anything i said! i didnt realzie this
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:54 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
as a former small business owner, they already do. I think they are getting this one right, though..
They do, still doesn't make it right. Next time it may not just be business' though. It could happen to your private residence.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I do, but I like reading contradiction and stupidity. IDGAF about the ban because not a single place I frequent will follow it. Actually don't mind going outside at Balcony Bar because it gives me a chance to relax and finger whatever girls I'm talking to in peace.
and i don't know if anyone still posting even smokes
Sometimes, I just like going outside and taking a break from being inside the bar. Forcing me to constantly walk in and out is not my cup of tea, and I'm not doing it when there are other places who won't make me do it.
I'm not a dick when I smoke. I actually really dislike smoking inside...except at bars. I'm not rude about it, and most people would be surprised because I actually have manners when I do. Hell, even I have had to walk out of bars for a breath of fresh air every now and then, but I am not gonna tell people what to do. If I don't want to be somewhere, I'll just remove myself. Not that hard
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:57 pm to rlebl39
quote:
They do, still doesn't make it right. Next time it may not just be business' though. It could happen to your private residence.
This has already been done in some places.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:57 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Well your retarded posts would suggest that.
i didnt realzie this
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:01 pm to Lester Earl
Wouldn't all of these people who absolutely cannot go to bars because they allow smoking just go to a nonsmoking bar?
Bars will lose a good bit of business because smokers will find the one place that allows it. There aren't gonna be any more non-smokers going to bars, just less smokers. The fact of the matter is that there are non-smoking bars, and people would rather bitch than go to them. Neighborhood bars will be hit the hardest by this, and I'd suspect a lot of them will close if they follow it.
Bars will lose a good bit of business because smokers will find the one place that allows it. There aren't gonna be any more non-smokers going to bars, just less smokers. The fact of the matter is that there are non-smoking bars, and people would rather bitch than go to them. Neighborhood bars will be hit the hardest by this, and I'd suspect a lot of them will close if they follow it.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 4:04 pm
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