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re: New Infrastructure Spending Plan likely means a NOLA -Baton Rouge passenger rail link

Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:15 am to
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41884 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:15 am to
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But I think the Baton Rouge-New Orleans rail link won't be very popular unless


um, eventually it will connect from BTR to houston heading west and Nola to atlanta going east

im not sure why this is so difficult to understand.

improving our transportation infrastructure should be applauded
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 11:15 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:15 am to
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but this country has been needing an infrastructure boost.



Agreed. But this won't be an infrastructure boost.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33035 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:15 am to
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I can only imagine how crappy these trains will be after a year or two of usage. What a waste.



If you've been on Amtraks in the last 20 years, you'd notice that they are nicer and more comfortable than flying. Certainly better than taking a bus.


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Meanwhile, our Capitol has the only spot on I-10 where drivers are forced to go down to one lane and I-12 remains a gridlock at the Tchefuncte River for most hours of the day


There is funding already in place to start work on fixing this debacle finally. Design work is underway now and construction will start next year. It's ridiculous that it's taken so long to even get started.


Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33035 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:17 am to
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um, eventually it will connect from BTR to houston heading west and Nola to atlanta going east



Already a link connecting New Orleans to Houston, and it doesn't go through Baton Rouge. The new link they are adding to Baton Rouge is basically a spur.

I think the Baton Rouge extension would aim towards Shreveport and Dallas, right? No plans for that in the recent maps provided by Amtrak. But it would definitely help justify the line and likely help out a lot of towns in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 11:18 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175409 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:17 am to
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Meanwhile, our Capitol has the only spot on I-10 where drivers are forced to go down to one lane

Incorrect

That happens in San Antonio
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:18 am to
Is this going to be a high-speed train?


Also, if it only goes from downtown New Orleans to downtown Baton Rouge without any stops in between, I'm not sure what good that does.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175409 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:19 am to
The plan was to have a stop on Essen in Br for the hospitals and a stop at MSY
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41884 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:19 am to
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Already a link connecting New Orleans to Houston, and it doesn't go through Baton Rouge. The new link they are adding to Baton Rouge is basically a spur.

I think the Baton Rouge extension would aim towards Shreveport and Dallas, right? No plans for that in the recent maps provided by Amtrak


gotcha, and youre right. i thought i read this would be from BTR to houston
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71151 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:19 am to
Bridges crumbling everywhere. Roads wash out and cave in any time it rains too hard. A freeze/snow can make potholes big enough to lose a Volkswagen bug in. Repaving projects take months or years, but only after years of planning. Areas that once had just a couple houses are now covered up with subdivisions and traffic on two-lane roads that sees cars stacked 50 deep at every intersection on every afternoon because we need a three year study to figure out where to put a damn red light. All of this, and the great leader's "infrastructure plan" is going to sink untold billions in a fricking pointless train?
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Notnac
Vidalia
Member since Nov 2020
881 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:21 am to
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They can build it but it will never turn a profit


No doubt. The question is.... how big of an annual deficit for operating costs will tax payers be on the hook for?
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9052 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:25 am to
One would think New Orleans would prioritize upgrading its pumps/canal systems and roads first.

If we are going to spend money on infrastructure, let’s fix the broken system first.
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3914 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:25 am to
Haven’t seen the list of projects, but if a new Mississippi River bridge isn’t on that “infrastructure” list it will be infuriating.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175409 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:25 am to
They’re potentially getting this funding because the project has been absorbed into future Amtrak plans.

The original Br-Nola rail plan didn’t have anything to do with Amtrak which would have worked better. I don’t want to have to deal with Amtrak to take the train from BR to Nola. It would have been much easier to run it like a suburban commuter rail system used in big cities all over the country that extends the routes out past their urban mass transit system.

ETA: and also if it’s Amtrak you’re not going to have stops at MSY, Essen, etc like the original plan had.

In order words it would suck arse if Amtrak takes over.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 11:27 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17329 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:27 am to
Can't believe they are actually going to do this.

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The plan was to have a stop on Essen in Br for the hospitals and a stop at MSY



Yes. I found a map but I don't know how accurate this is. Unfortunately the new MSY terminal is the opposite side of the airport now as the tracks they wanted to use.



I think the downtown station was going to be near the Entergy building that they just renovated on Government Street.

Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41884 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:27 am to
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It would have been much easier to run it like a suburban commuter rail system used in big cities all over the country that extends the routes out past their urban mass transit system.



agreed, i suppose i shouldnt be too optimistic that this will go off smoothly
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41171 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:27 am to
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as it could be the first step toward funding a long-sought commuter rail line between New Orleans and Baton Rouge.


Does anyone actually want it?

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know the rail link is controversial in of itself, but I'd rather the feds shovel money into infrastructure than most of the other nonsense they spend on.


Commuter rail isn’t infrastructure if it already doesn’t exist. It’s an absolute waste of money for this commuter route to exist, especially considering neither city is a walking city like in the NE.

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Unfortunately a lot of the "infrastructure" bill won't benefit America's infrastructure.


Yeah, like commuter rail.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80196 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:28 am to
I can tell you what type of people will and won't use this train.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175409 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:28 am to
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Can't believe they are actually going to do this.

Well they’re not going to do



this anymore if this new plans wins. Which would suck.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104133 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:28 am to
So you could live in trashy Baton Rouge and commute to trashy New Orleans or vice versa.
Posted by ELLSSUU
Member since Jan 2005
7952 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:29 am to
It also includes billions to rebuild large office buildings in cities.

Yeah we’re all working from home and studies say that’s going to stick. so your taxpayer dollars are going to rebuild buildings where not many people go anymore. Super idea.
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