re: New baby on the way - Whooping Cough vaccine

We trust big pharma on stuff like whooping cough and measles, etc.

We’re all smarter than them and the doctors on some other stuff though. Internet and Alex Jones has teached me.

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Sorry, but it doesn’t make any sense risking an injection of formaldehyde into my childs body to protect against a nonexistent disease.

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Your body converts formaldehyde into formate. Human beings are robust creatures.

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but there was the first case of poliomyelitis in the US since then just last year (in New York) - in an unvaccinated person.

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Yup - the attenuated strain is still around, but not pathogenic enough to cause problems to vaccinated people. But it can still cause rare but serious pathology in unvaccinated people:

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Polio was eliminated from the United States in 1979; however, on a few occasions, cases have been identified in this country. During the fall of 2022, an unvaccinated man in Rockland County, New York, was paralyzed as a result of a polio infection. The NY man was infected with a type of poliovirus that came from the oral polio vaccine, called vaccine-derived paralytic polio. The case was concerning because we know that only about 1 of every 2,000 people infected with this vaccine-derived strain will be paralyzed, meaning that many others are likely also being exposed to this virus. High vaccination rates in most U.S. communities mean that often we remain unaware of the presence of the virus, but recent drops in routine immunizations following the pandemic have left some communities more vulnerable.

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Ps I never claimed to be an expert on virology; I simply tossed out a reply which would get a certain response from a few posters.

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You offered a definition on 'real vaccines,' you dim bulb.

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A viral vector vaccine has had at least some level of succesful testing prior to COVID.

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The problem with this argument is that each pathogen requires a different vaccine approach. Vaccinology in large part is mediated by the morphological characteristics of the pathogen in question. There wasn't a subunit vaccine until there was, there wasn't a polysaccharide-based vaccine until there was, there wasn't a toxoid-vaccine until there was. Why we have to pretend that the entire history of vaccinology wasn't built on developing techniques based on the morphology of the virus in question, among other considerations like storage, type, route, etc., is the weirdest part of the people who continually offer rebuttals along 'muh real vaccine' lines.

You don't know enough about the history of vaccines nor about immunology to make such a claim. Yet you morons still do.

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Well of course they would discredit the guy for taking away $$ from pharmaceutical companies.

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He faked his data. He discredited himself.

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I never claimed to be an expert on virology

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Then you should leave it to the people who are (aka real doctors).

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but nonexistent nonetheless.

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Polio still exists in the world

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Then you should leave it to the people who are (aka real doctors).

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Are you making the argument that all medical doctors are virology experts now?

I left the bait because I needed a half hour of amusement; it would be time wasted if you turned out to be the village idiot.

I got it when I was a teenager. Imagine coughing so bad you almost pass out then you gasp for air and then at least half the time you puke on yourself. Horrible right. Now guess what it last for weeks.