re: New Ascension Parish Building Requirements

He’s 100% correct. 2016 was an extraordinary, once in a generation event. Development may have contributed to some extent but the 30”+ inches of rain had a lot more to do with it. Why can’t people understand that?

The main problem AP has is regular drainage after ~5” of rain, which IS made worse by development.

Clean ditches, re-dig ditches, ENFORCE litter laws and slap first time offenders with $1,000 fines, replace old, small, & outdated culverts across the parish, and dredge the main rivers & bayous across the parish. THOSE THINGS will improve drainage across the developed areas of the parish more than limiting house pads to 3’. That’s just fricking dumb because the only time the water will get above a 3’ pad and be allowed to spread out more is gonna be a time of intense flooding that will laugh at any man made mitigation attempt.

This set of restrictions is a poor attempt at satisfying the public at the expense of future tax revenue because the growth is now going to plateau. We’re gonna be a parish full of jacked up trailers and jacked up 300,000 homes that nobody wants - all while the other pre-existing homes still flood because ditches are too shallow and clogged with debris.

But at least we’ll have strict building requirements!

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I'm not saying I disagree with this, but I'm gonna go a bit further than this. How about hire some public works crews to go around and pick the fricking shite up? That's the problem I see here that you don't see in other states. shite heads litter, yes. We all agree on that. But when you know there's litter somewhere... surely there's a crew who was hired to ride around from time to time in a dump truck to do some housekeeping and get the litter off the road, right? You know, instead of chilling in a warehouse and cooking a pot of jambalaya, how about get up and do some work?

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AP obviously has better things to do than pick up litter.

But yea, that’s part of the plan I would put into place if I were the one in charge.

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Your entire post didn’t make much sense. Try again and focus on trying to stick to things I said or points I actually made.

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Sorry, should have said "Do ya'll...". You can only respond to one person when you hit respond. Chose you because you were the only one who had some type of coherent explanation not based on some anectodal evidence of their ditches being full. Wasn't implying that you specifically said development caused flooding or the 2' rule was going to help. I was generally responding to the entire thread.

In response to the thread: Read the Amite River Basin report on the flood of 2016 and increased urbanization, i.e. development, was listed as a very minor role if it had a role at all. Furthermore, responsible development with net zero fill and 10 or 25 yr storm detention played no role. Developments built after the flood ordinance in baton rouge (1987) did not flood in 2016. The developments built from the post war era to 1987 were generally the ones that flooded. Development before the war was generally on high ground and development after 1987 was required to be above the base flood with net zero fill and detention. Developments in between those time periods were built in the suburbs with no detention, filled in the flood zone and weren't always above base flood. The report blames the 30" of rain obviously, headwaters projects on the amite that deepened the channel increasing velocity and the siltation on the downstream end. Those issues are what made flooding in Baton rouge and ascension more widespread than it may have been otherwise.

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We’re gonna be a parish full of jacked up trailers and jacked up 300,000 homes that nobody wants - all while the other pre-existing homes still flood because ditches are too shallow and clogged with debris.

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You are right and wrong. New rules with equal enforcement are part of the solution. And yes, this is correct:

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Clean ditches, re-dig ditches, ENFORCE litter laws and slap first time offenders with $1,000 fines, replace old, small, & outdated culverts across the parish, and dredge the main rivers & bayous across the parish. THOSE THINGS will improve drainage across the developed areas of the parish more than limiting house pads to 3’.

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But how does the parish do this. Yes, a federal grant (but we hate Feds right?) will help, but to do this effectively there needs to be sustainable, long-term funding. Is AP ready to add a stormwater mitigation fee to every new development (kinda what the new rules are doing) or pass a new millage? I mean the parish can't seem to find enough money for roads or for building municipal sewer? Maybe the money is there already and not being spent correctly which is a politics/management issue.

Either way, the people in AP are gonna have to pay to fix this. Building and maintaining public infrastructure is expensive and in most cases you pay upfront or you push the can down the road and everyone pays later. I'm dealing with this in New Orleans and SWB, we pushed the can down the road and everyone is gonna end up paying a lot more now.

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You think a bought and paid for candidate

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This shows your ignorance, if you think Painter's opponent isn't bought and paid for you're kidding yourself. One family and their cohorts are hoping to win with Cointment to finally have "their" guy in place. Not to mention the people helping his campaign that he will be giving positions to are nothing but cronies as well. All the candidates are bought and paid for, a million dollars were raised last race and over half of it came from outside the parish. At least give me someone who has the training and qualifications to run an enterprise of this magnitude.

Also, there are a lot more people donating to Murphy than those on the west bank that supported Matassa. There are more underlying things like squabbling between big wigs around AP to just support opposite to whomever their nemesis in the parish is supporting.

Either way, Cointment couldn't beat the worst candidate to run for parish president since it's inception just over 25 years ago, so don't look for him to win here. Qualifications mean something to Baton Rouge transplants in the Dutchtown/Prairieville portion of the parish. Murphy will win Gonzales and Donaldsonville, leaving not enough votes in St. Amant, Galvez and Sorrento.

Also, I never said he was the best choice, he is the better of the 2 we will have in my opinion. The best option was looking around the country for a parish manager instead of this popularity contest we have here. But hey, keep putting words into people's post when I clearly stated in the portion you quoted that he wasn't the bees knees.

Some are listed in the report if I remember correctly. Corps projects that created channelization upstream and on tributaries sending more silt downstream.

Probably a variance for non residential or accessory buildings.

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The best option was looking around the country for a parish manager instead of this popularity contest we have here.

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Really? The plan that was supported by more people outside of Ascension Parish than within?