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New Alabama law requires DUI suspects to submit to saliva tests for drugs

Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:56 pm
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A new law set to go into effect in August will require DUI suspects to submit to saliva tests designed to detect drug-impaired driving.

The bill, S.B. 258, which was signed into law in May, gives saliva testing implied consent standing under Alabama law. Drivers suspected of DUI who refuse the test would face an automatic suspension of their license. The law currently holds this standing for drivers who refuse to submit to a breathalyzer test for alcohol impairment.

Sen. Arthur Orr (R - Decatur) had worked for years to get a bill requiring saliva testing pasts. He said blood tests for drivers suspected of DUI submitted to the Alabama Department of Forensic Sciences (ADFS) last year showed for the first time more cases of impairment caused by drug use than alcohol.

I think it’s just because we’re more aware of it now and there are unfortunately a lot of drug abuses occurring in our society," Orr said.


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Police officers who had suspected a person of drug impairment was forced to wait for a warrant to administer a blood test. The process took time which can be precious in determining whether or not a driver is truly impaired by drug use.
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"Certain drugs can leave the system fairly quickly and so you have drugs like heroine and cocaine that two hours after the crash or contact with law enforcement when they're pulling the blood....those drugs may have already cycled out of the system," explained William Lindsey of the Alabama District Attorneys Association.

Lindsey said the Quantisal collection device captures active THC values in a person's blood streams. This for example allows law enforcement to see the active level of impairment from marijuana use compared to a blood test which would capture any use from a far greater length of time.

The saliva tests have already been used by some drug enforcement agencies and local police departments but only with a person's consent. Lindsey said Alabama district attorneys have encouraged the use of the technology and some police departments have already begun training officers.

"It may take a couple years for some small town police department to get this technology. Also as we discussed training is going to be necessary because an officer is going to have to take the stand presumably in a court of law and walk through the procedures that were taken," Orr said.

The tests are made available through ADFS at no charge to local departments according to Lindsey. The law officially goes into effect on August 1st.



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Oral Fluid Drug Testing Program
Oral fluid (or saliva) collection is rapid, non-invasive, and simple. Oral fluid contains the active/impairing drug which likely represents recent drug use. We are the first state to offer a comprehensive Oral Fluid Drug Testing program at the State Crime Laboratory level. It is two-fold: (1) screening at the roadside and (2) evidentiary confirmation oral fluid drug testing at ADFS.
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Excerpt from "Using Oral Fluid to Detect Drugs. Infographics. Sponsored by AAA. 2020."

First, we have validated and approved three “roadside” oral fluid drug screening devices that law enforcement can use during a DUI stop or crash to identify drug use. Field screening devices test for marijuana, cocaine, methamphetamine, amphetamine, opioids, and benzodiazepines. The devices are analogous to PBTs for alcohol and should be used to establish probable cause. They display “positive” or “negative” and should be administered after standardized field sobriety tests to confirm suspicion of drug use. This information can also be used to assist with obtaining a search warrant to collect a confirmation specimen such as blood (or oral fluid). It is the responsibility of the law enforcement agency to purchase, maintain, and seek adequate training for these devices.

Secondly, we now offer laboratory testing of oral fluid samples at ADFS. After an arrest, an evidentiary confirmation oral fluid specimen should be collected in an appropriate collection device/tube provided by ADFS. The Toxicology Section will test the oral fluid sample and issue a report of our findings. We test for 25 drugs of abuse and therapeutic drugs commonly found in driving cases. It is considered best practice to collect both blood and oral fluid. In some circumstances, testing both specimens will provide a more complete picture of recent drug use. The first oral fluid case was submitted to the laboratory in August 2018. Newly distributed DUI biological specimens kits (BSKits) containing one Quantisal oral fluid device and two blood tubes have been distributed throughout the state. The kits no longer contain a urine container. As of July 2020, we have received over 250 oral fluid cases.
https://adfs.alabama.gov/services/tox/toxicology-oral-testing-program
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31796 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:58 pm to
Awesome. Louisiana should follow suit. Need to get those burn out reefers looking for Taco Bell off the road.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48837 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:59 pm to
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Certain drugs can leave the system fairly quickly and so you have drugs like heroine and cocaine that two hours after the crash or contact with law enforcement when they're pulling the blood....those drugs may have already cycled out of the system,"


This seems a stretch.

What say the drug lords of the OT?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30234 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:59 pm to
I’ve wondered how cops were determining whether drivers were actually high or just had THC in their system. I don’t partake in any marijuana products, but if I did, I’d want to be certain that I didn’t get a DWI on Tuesday for a joint I smoked on Saturday. I guess this at least prevents that from occurring to someone.
Posted by Cajun Tide
North Alabama
Member since Mar 2008
494 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:01 pm to
Good. Don't drive high. I have no quarrel with anyone wanting to do whatever inside their home. Just don't put everyone else at risk because you get hungry and need to go get 50 bucks worth of taco bell.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47463 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:03 pm to
I thought these tests just detected presence of drugs for last 48-72 hrs.

Are these tests different in that they can tell HOW fricked up you are?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53570 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:04 pm to
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Lindsey said the Quantisal collection device captures active THC values in a person's blood streams. This for example allows law enforcement to see the active level of impairment from marijuana use compared to a blood test which would capture any use from a far greater length of time.

Good! Being unable to test for impairment with marijuana is one of the big crutches those who are against legalization have. Get these tests active, and legalize recreational marijuana.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19495 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:12 pm to

Things have come full circle when southern cops ask potheads to spit on them.

Next they need to make them say “I smell bacon” as part of the field sobriety test.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24653 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:12 pm to
Added some info I found from the ADFS website to OP
Posted by BigBobbyStorey
New Lodge, Belfast
Member since May 2021
1058 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:13 pm to
drug users and especially dealers should be shot.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24653 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:17 pm to
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Are these tests different in that they can tell HOW fricked up you are?




This I am unsure of.
Posted by MiamiRelative
Member since May 2021
156 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:44 pm to
Just another reason to avoid Alabama.
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
3486 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:46 pm to
Suddenly we've got to tell them all to spit after years of begging for them to swallow
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15843 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:47 pm to
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Are these tests different in that they can tell HOW fricked up you are?




They do not. It just gives a positive or negative reading on 7 different drugs
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:47 pm to
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Lindsey said the Quantisal collection device captures active THC values in a person's blood streams. This for example allows law enforcement to see the active level of impairment from marijuana use
A device that can tell if you are actually impaired by THC and how impaired you actually are has been the holy grail in drug testing for years and I wasn't aware that a device had been developed. Oddly, the Quantisal website doesn't make the same claims about their device that the State of Alabama does. Their faq contains no language about detecting active impairment. Only that it can detect more thc metabolites (than previous kits) ensuring less false negatives.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15843 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:49 pm to
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Quantisal collection device



I havent seen that one.

But ive seen the Draeger machine and it says positive and negative
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:53 pm to
Jokes on them, I got cotton mouth.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:55 pm to
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This seems a stretch.

What say the drug lords of the OT?


Maybe not that quickly, but it's true that a lot of the harder drugs leave the body quicker.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:56 pm to
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Just another reason to avoid Alabama.


If you drive while high on drugs, PLEASE avoid Alabama. Never come here.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 10:43 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17878 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:57 pm to
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Their faq contains no language about detecting active impairment. Only that it can detect more thc metabolites

I guess alabama didn't read the brochure.
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