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re: Need AA Flight 77 Pentagon Crash Opinion

Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:29 pm to
He probably objected to the premise, since one of the pilots had a commercial pilots license not “a few hours of simulator training”, or he’s wise enough to know that it’s a waste of time to discuss something with someone who won’t accept facts that don’t reconcile with their steadfast belief.
Posted by Darth Aranda
Naboo
Member since Dec 2016
3122 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:34 pm to
The three letter agencies have entered the chat
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30397 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:50 pm to
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He probably objected to the premise,


His stated objection is he knew the pilot of AA 77.
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1431 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:05 pm to
Understandable, as it’s obviously very disrespectful to those who were involved. I’m only annoyed and disappointed by these idiots, but I’m sure the family and friends of those killed take it much more personal.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38300 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:17 pm to
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The three letter agencies have entered the chat
Respectfully, the Truthers ITT haven't brought up a single point that hasn't been discussed and easily refuted hundreds of thousands of times on the internet since 2001. I doubt Sao and Roscoe from down da bayou warrant a dedicated case officer at this point.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1753 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:11 am to
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It doesn’t look like a commercial jet hit it imo. The one video that was put out that supposedly shows the nose cone of the plane just before impact doesn’t make sense when combined with all of the other evidence or lack thereof. The NBC reports about the wings folding in behind the “penetrating” nose cone really set off my bs alarm. Frickin propagandist media! There’s plenty of evidence on the web of planes hitting one thing or another & the engines “survive” mostly intact & the nose cone of a plane isn’t exactly a penetrator of anything. That being said….where’s the plethora of surveillance videos that should show a plane flying into the building? There can’t be just that one crappy video of a supposed nose cone & then an explosion that doesn’t come close to resembling the impact/explosions of the twin towers. Also, if that was the nose cone then the plane was in fact contacting the ground well before impact which would greatly reduce its “penetrating” impact on the building. Again, I’m not got any conspiracy theories but the original videos/images of that day never looked even remotely the same to me or others I was in contact with as the events were unfolding.


TLDR: you’re a dumbass

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Fed! ??


Awww, frick, just a troll. I bit the hook…
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 12:26 am
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
19895 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:12 am to
Can't believe I just sat here and read all 12 pages. What a bunch of utterly ignorant and ridiculous horseshite from these "truthers."
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11741 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:41 am to
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There is zero video of it impacting the Pentagon that is worth a shite.


Not trying to be a dick here, but are you under 25?

9/11 was 22 years ago. Digital video was in its infancy. The tiny percentage (compared to today) of security cameras were VHS tape systems. IP cameras were 5 years away, and even then they were still analog SD quality. Enhancing video digitally was a pipe dream.

In fact, it was 9/11 that drove the technology boom in security cameras that leads to people in 2023 to assume "zero video footage of 9/11" is somehow a conspiracy.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:43 am to
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Understandable, as it’s obviously very disrespectful to those who were involved. I’m only annoyed and disappointed by these idiots, but I’m sure the family and friends of those killed take it much more personal.
I found it very interesting that our government deemed it necessary to pay hush money to the victims families.

I found it even more interesting that there were some victims families who refused to take the money because they weren’t buying the official story.

Furthermore, the woman who led that group went to D.C. and spoke with Obama about reopening the investigation into what actually happened on 9/11.

She was then killed in a plane crash.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11741 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:53 am to
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Wings missed signs?


Please tell me you aren't making the assumption that a single freeway overpass sign in an image taken from a long range camera with the pentagon in the background is a conspiracy.

A 30 second look at Google Earth shows that, for the sign in question to have been hit, the plane would've missed the Pentagon entirely.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30397 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:59 am to
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I found it very interesting that our government deemed it necessary to pay hush money to the victims families.


Are you talking about the VCF? If so it was to prevent upwards of 3,000 lawsuits against the airlines which would very likely have bankrupted them. Whether or not you think that was wise it is only hush money of that is what fits your agenda.

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I found it even more interesting that there were some victims families who refused to take the money because they weren’t buying the official story.


Link? I always thought all but one family took the VCF money and the one that didn't did it because they wanted to file suit against the airline and the airport security company which the eventually settled.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38300 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:01 am to
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Please tell me you aren't making the assumption that a single freeway overpass sign in an image taken from a long range camera with the pentagon in the background is a conspiracy.
Yes. That's what he is doing. Welcome to truther logic.

edit- and that's what angers me about this topic. For twenty years we've had to put up with these idiotic discussions because the internet gave every moron an outlet to think they've got everything figured out. You can prove them wrong and wrong again and it washes off of them like water.

Because they're fricking idiots.

It's disrespectful as hell to the victims but I don't even hold that angle against them. Ghouls don't understand why they're ghouls.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 2:37 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38300 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:54 am to
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It's a bit funny for one to call out conspiracy theorists as being crazy but to fully believe in all of the stuff you read in the Bible and think it all happened and all those people really existed.
Luckily, I remain spiritually unaffiliated. Appeals aimed at attacking incredulous shite in the Bible don't move the needle for me.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 3:55 am
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:25 am to
42. The Pentagon in 2001 was loaded with security cameras. So was the surrounding area. Feds confiscated hundreds of tapes without warrants. All we get is the gate cam.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38300 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:35 am to
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The Pentagon in 2001 was loaded with security cameras. So was the surrounding area.
Link to actual proof of this or is it yet another example of argument from incredulity?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71101 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:57 am to
We have no video of the plane dropping the bomb on the USS Arizona during the Pearl Harbor attack. We have footage of the Arizona exploding, but no cinematic proof that the reason for the explosion was a bomb dropped from the sky via airplane.

We have eyewitness testimony from soldiers and sailors that there were planes from Japan flying around Oahu dropping shite from the sky that caused things to explode, but we have NO direct footage of the planes dropping bombs. Therefore....one must conclude that we have no documentary evidence that the USS Arizona was exploded by a plane-based bomb.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 4:58 am
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:19 am to
Who is this Roody-Poo Candy arse?
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8806 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:24 am to
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42. The Pentagon in 2001 was loaded with security cameras. So was the surrounding area. Feds confiscated hundreds of tapes without warrants. All we get is the gate cam.

So where is flight 77?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24226 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:34 am to
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You realize the pentagon isn’t a Burger King don’t you? It’s massive.

A lot of the people I've seen who are skeptical seem to miss this point. Most ha e never seen the Pentagon in person and just have the scale they've seen in a camera shot from a helicopter. It was the largest office building in the world at the time. It's not exactly a Robin Hood splitting an arrow type of shot.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33441 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:40 am to
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How in the hell does that not raise any red flags especially when its young men of middle eastern descent


Have you seen Borat? It’s not all that hard to play naïve and confuse us stupid Americans.

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