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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:48 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:48 pm to Fun Bunch
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Oh so now we are opposed to private businesses being able to make the decisions they want in a free market
Oh frick off with your fake arse "gotcha". That's not at all what I said or implied.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:49 pm to Fun Bunch
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Oh so now we are opposed to private businesses being able to make the decisions they want in a free market
Interesting
Please point to this free market that suddenly exists.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:50 pm to ShoeBang
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Covid % chance of death: .01%
I understand your position but don't throw a stat out there without context. It was a hell of a lot higher than .01% for people in certain groups. Maybe not you personally, but for some. For people like me, I never worried about it.
I also, for the record, don't GAF if people get the shot or not and think society should move on, but I don't mind debating other COVID related topics.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:50 pm to Fun Bunch
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Fun Bunch
I'll be happy to change my opinion if someone can provide me a direction in which to go and find real info.
I'd also like you to point out what about the post that you laughed at was false?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:52 pm to ShoeBang
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'd also like you to point out what about the post that you laughed at was false?
He just likes doing that because he truly believes he's the smartest person in the room.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:52 pm to jchamil
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Damn. So they think it's possible that many people in India had it and got over it, or are the tests picking up other coronavirus antibodies as well?
Anyone that thought India and other shitholes like China were going to socially distance and wear masks is an idiot. Their numbers are so far from accurate.
To this day, the official number of covid infections in China is 92,000. Yes you read that right. In the country where it started with a population of 1.4 billion and the most densely populated cities on the planet.
The total number of infections in East Baton Rouge and Jefferson parish combined is 92,000.
There are actually people out there, most of whom voted for Biden, that believe China beat the virus “because their citizens listened to the government”
There is no doubt in my mind China had probably 750 million cases. Their propaganda machine is incredible.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:54 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Ya I could possibly find their stats believable if they were an island like Australia or NZ.
But they supposedly shut this shite down by summer 2020? C'mon
But they supposedly shut this shite down by summer 2020? C'mon
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:55 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Oh frick off with your fake arse "gotcha". That's not at all what I said or implied.
You said you have a problem with private businesses having vaccine mandates.
So private businesses cannot set their own policy.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:56 pm to ShoeBang
quote:How can you say that? Like you say, we dont know the 5 year long term death rate of covid
That we know of.
Covid % chance of death: .01%
Vaccine Risk of Death: Incomplete
People may start dropping dead 2.5 years after exposure and the real death rate is 10%
So, using your parameters
Covid % chance of death: unknown
Vaccine: unknown
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:56 pm to LegendInMyMind
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He just likes doing that because he truly believes he's the smartest person in the room.
No not at all. I am pretty dumb.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:56 pm to lsupride87
That's a good point. Long COVID
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:58 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Ya I could possibly find their stats believable if they were an island like Australia or NZ.
All you have to do is look at New Zealand. An island nation with incredibly strict immigration standards and they made everyone who came in quarantine and test.
Yet the virus kept coming back after they would extinguish it.
Everything China says is a lie. They should be severely punished by every modern nation but no one currently has the balls to do it. China very swiftly shut Australia up when they tried.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:58 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
I like the dedication of the downvote crew this far in a thread.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:00 pm to WaWaWeeWa
I agree. That 92k number would make sense in a world where they have little bumps here and there like NZ, but their shite basically stopped dead and never moved.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:09 pm to lsupride87
Based on current info. You’re using information that doesn’t exist yet. Said info could change my mind.
Making up hypotheticals to a situation I’ll probably be forced to deal with at some point vs a vaccine I don’t have to take is a bold way to convince someone of why they should take it. Sure both are unknowns but one is optional if you choose not to take it. I hope I’m wrong really, but I’ve been skeptical of any company’s ability to get this right based on past coverups and lack of liability if they did frick it up. It’s on me so I’m choosing not to play the game here essentially because no one knows all the rules yet.
Making up hypotheticals to a situation I’ll probably be forced to deal with at some point vs a vaccine I don’t have to take is a bold way to convince someone of why they should take it. Sure both are unknowns but one is optional if you choose not to take it. I hope I’m wrong really, but I’ve been skeptical of any company’s ability to get this right based on past coverups and lack of liability if they did frick it up. It’s on me so I’m choosing not to play the game here essentially because no one knows all the rules yet.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:09 pm to lsupride87
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How can you say that? Like you say, we dont know the 5 year long term death rate of covid
People may start dropping dead 2.5 years after exposure and the real death rate is 10%
Come on now. This is just pure "what if" fear mongering.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:09 pm to ShoeBang
quote:If you are basing it on "current info", why are you putting unknown for your vaccine death rate?
Based on current info
What you are actually doing is using the death rate of covid based on the near term, and saying you have to wait 5 years for the death rate of the vaccine
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:10 pm to TheFlyingTiger
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Come on now. This is just pure "what if" fear mongering.
uh....
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:11 pm to Salmon
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:11 pm to TheFlyingTiger
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Come on now. This is just pure "what if" fear mongering.
Maybe you guys are self aware, kudos
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